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1. Date: 2008-11-20 06:39:28
Subject: Climate Alarmist Loses Debate
From: "nbzoo" <n...@...com> Search message by this author

20 Nov 2008

MAGB went to last night's debate between warming alarmist David Karoly and
sceptic Bill Kininmonth, and reports:

The climate change debate between David Karoly of Melbourne University and
Bill Kininmonth (ex Bureau of Meteorology)last night in Melbourne was well
attended with lots of vocal support for the heretics' position.

Karoly came across as patronising, and resorted to hectoring the audience
when the degree of opposition to him became clear. A pseudo-academic version
of Al Gore.

As an example of his approach, one of his first slides showed ice melting in
the northern hemisphere but he completely neglected to mention the lack of
melting in Antarctica.

He did a great job in reinforcing the weakness of the AGW position and I'm
more convinced than ever that this stuff is just an interesting hypothesis
that has been taken over by vested interests.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/comments/gassiest_stunt_against_gas_ye
t/

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

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2. Date: 2008-11-20 16:09:03
Subject: Re: Climate Alarmist Loses Debate
From: "V for Vendicar" <E...@h...com> Search message by this author

Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o********
*****
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o*****
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*****
****
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o****
***
2004 14.49 ************************************************o**
2005 14.62 *************************************************o**
********
2006 14.54 **************************************************o*
***
2007 14.56 ***************************************************o
*****
-------------------------------------------> Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

Source NASAS ->
http://data.giss.nasa.gov:80/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.T
s+dSST.txt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs

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3. Date: 2008-11-20 20:37:51
Subject: Re: Climate Alarmist Loses Debate
From: Catoni <c...@s...ca> Search message by this author

On Nov 20, 11:09 am, "V for Vendicar"
<E...@h...com> wrote:
> Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.
>
> Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
>
> And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.
>
> View with mono spaced font.
>
> 1958 14.08 *******o***************
> 1959 14.06 ********o************
> 1960 13.99 *********o******
> 1961 14.08 **********o************
> 1962 14.04 ***********o********
> 1963 14.08 ************o**********
> 1964 13.79 **===========o
> 1965 13.89 *********====o
> 1966 13.97 **************o
> 1967 14.00 ***************o*
> 1968 13.96 **************==o
> 1969 14.08 *****************o*****
> 1970 14.03 ******************o
> 1971 13.90 **********=========o
> 1972 14.00 *****************===o
> 1973 14.14 ********************o******
> 1974 13.92 ***********==========o
> 1975 13.95 *************=========o
> 1976 13.84 ******=================o
> 1977 14.13 ************************o*
> 1978 14.02 ******************=======o
> 1979 14.09 ***********************===o
> 1980 14.18 ***************************o**
> 1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
> 1982 14.05 ********************========o
> 1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
> 1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
> 1985 14.06 *********************==========o
> 1986 14.13 **************************======o
> 1987 14.27 *********************************o**
> 1988 14.31 **********************************o****
> 1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
> 1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
> 1991 14.35 ************************************o****
> 1992 14.12 *************************============o
> 1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
> 1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
> 1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
> 1996 14.30 **************************************===o
> 1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
> 1998 14.57 *******************************************o********
*****
> 1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
> 2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
> 2001 14.48 *********************************************o*****
> 2002 14.56 **********************************************o*****
****
> 2003 14.55 ***********************************************o****
***
> 2004 14.49 ************************************************o**
> 2005 14.62 *************************************************o**
********
> 2006 14.54 **************************************************o*
***
> 2007 14.56 ***************************************************o
*****
> -------------------------------------------> Temperature
>
> Correlation Coefficient .8529209
>
> Source NASAS ->http://data.giss.nasa.gov:80/gistemp/tabledata/GLB
.Ts+dSST.txt
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs

HEY VENDI !!! Welcome back. Although we disagree very strongly, and
never agree, some of us have missed you. It's just not the same here
without your interesting remarks and comments. Hope everything is
fine. Welcome back.