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"Roger Coppock" <r...@a...com> wrote in message
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> Huge Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses
> Global Warming Blamed For Ice Shelf Collapse That Puts Larger Area At
> Risk
> Please see:
> ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/tech/main39
68165.shtml
ROTFLMAO.
Coppcock does it again!!!!
Shriller and shriller as global cooling takes hold!
This area constitutes about 2% of Antarctica, and as the article says,
through gritted teeth, the other 98% of Antarctica is COOLING!
QUOTE: "Much of the continent is not warming and some parts are even
cooling, Vaughan said. However, the western peninsula, which includes
the Wilkins ice shelf, juts out into the ocean and is warming. "
ALSO NB:
There is a small area of significant warming in the peninsula that
points towards South America, but this is less than 2% of Antarctica's
total land mass.
Extract From: More Ice Than Ever In Antarctica
Patrick J. Michaels
February 5, 2008
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1727
--
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
". researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany
report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years,
accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over
the last 100 years."
http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=28727941
2587175
"00BNZ" <0...@d...com> wrote in message
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>
> "Roger Coppock" <r...@a...com> wrote in message
> news:3364d4c2-5ff9-4522-954c-aab442136cac@s12g2000pr
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>> Huge Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses
>> Global Warming Blamed For Ice Shelf Collapse That Puts Larger Area At
>> Risk
>> Please see:
>> ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/tech/main39
68165.shtml
>
Some perspective On Hyped Antarctic Ice Shelf Collapses
Posted by jennifer
March 26, 2008
http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/002869
.html
There is an Australian e-journal that is popular with many
government-types called crikey.com.au. Today the lead story began,
"A chunk of ice seven times the size of Manhattan (as big as the Isle of
Man if you prefer a more Anglo-centric news source) is hanging by a
thread to the main, still-frozen body of the western Antarctic.
Satellite images are showing the rapid disintegration of a 41km x 2.5km
ice chunk, a part of the Wilkins Ice Shelf that has been there for
hundreds, maybe 1,500 years. It is happening, the scientific consensus
seems to be, because the seas are getting warmer. It's that greenhouse
thing.
So, what to do? Blame China? No, we need to take individual
responsibility. Wait on the Garnaut report? No, too little too late. We
must act now ... of course! Let's turn some lights off on Saturday. For
an hour. That'll fix it. Meanwhile, click on the image below to watch a
video of what Earth Hour is up against." [end of quote]
Anyway, that's about as clever as it gets even from the so-called
alternative media and the story is much the same in The Australian.
Then of course there are the blogs, including some which actually
provide data and background information to put the collapse of the
icesheet in some context:
"In reality it and all the former shelves that collapsed are small and
most near the Antarctic peninsula which sticks well out from Antarctica
into the currents and winds of the South Atlantic and lies in a
tectonically active region with surface and subsurface active volcanic
activity. The vast continent has actually cooled since 1979...
"The full Wilkins 6,000 square mile ice shelf is just 0.39% of the
current ice sheet (just 0.1% of the extent last September). Only a small
portion of it between 1/10th-1/20th of Wilkins has separated so far,
like an icicle falling off a snow and ice covered house. And this winter
is coming on quickly. In fact the ice is returning so fast, it is
running an amazing 60% ahead (4.0 vs 2.5 million square km extent) of
last year when it set a new record. The ice extent is already
approaching the second highest level for extent since the measurements
began by satellite in 1979 and just a few days into the Southern
Hemisphere winter and 6 months ahead of the peak. Wilkins like all the
others that temporarily broke up will refreeze soon. We are very likely
going to exceed last year's record. Yet the world is left with the false
impression Antarctica's ice sheet is also starting to disappear."
Read the complete blog post and check out meteorologist Joseph D'Aleo
graphs at http://icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate
--
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"The question scientists should now be asking is not how much it will
warm over the next 50 to 100 years, but why has it warmed so little
during the major carbon dioxide buildup?" Patrick J. Michaels,
Environmental Scientist , University of Virginia
"00BNZ" <0...@d...com> wrote in message
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>
> "Roger Coppock" <r...@a...com> wrote in message
> news:3364d4c2-5ff9-4522-954c-aab442136cac@s12g2000pr
g.googlegroups.com...
>> Huge Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses
>> Global Warming Blamed For Ice Shelf Collapse That Puts Larger Area At
>> Risk
>> Please see:
>> ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/tech/main39
68165.shtml
>
> ROTFLMAO.
> Coppcock does it again!!!!
> Shriller and shriller as global cooling takes hold!
> This area constitutes about 2% of Antarctica, and as the article says,
> through gritted teeth, the other 98% of Antarctica is COOLING!
>
> QUOTE: "Much of the continent is not warming and some parts are even
> cooling, Vaughan said. However, the western peninsula, which includes
> the Wilkins ice shelf, juts out into the ocean and is warming. "
>
>
>
>
> ALSO NB:
> There is a small area of significant warming in the peninsula that
> points towards South America, but this is less than 2% of Antarctica's
> total land mass.
>
> Extract From: More Ice Than Ever In Antarctica
>
> Patrick J. Michaels
>
> February 5, 2008
>
> http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1727
> --
>
>
>
> Warmest Regards
>
> Bonzo
>
>
> ". researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in
> Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60
> years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's
> temperature over the last 100 years."
> http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=28727941
2587175
Alarmists are forced to concentrate on part of the West Antarctic that
sticks out into the currents and winds of South Atlantic, plus there may
be tectonic and volcanic activity. Yawn, bring on the next non-scary
scare.
--
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"Attributing global climate change to human CO2 production is akin to
trying to diagnose an automotive problem by ignoring the engine
(analogous to the Sun in the climate system) and the transmission (water
vapour) and instead focusing entirely, not on one nut on a rear wheel,
which would be analogous to total CO2, but on one thread on that nut,
which represents the human contribution." Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of
the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP.com), Former Professor
Of Climatology, University of Winnipeg
On Mar 26, 5:34 pm, "00BNZ" <0...@d...com> wrote:
> "Roger Coppock" <r...@a...com> wrote in message
>
> news:3364d4c2-5ff9-4522-954c-aab442136cac@s12g2000pr
g.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Huge Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses
> > Global Warming Blamed For Ice Shelf Collapse That Puts Larger Area At
> > Risk
> > Please see:
> > ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/tech/main39
68165.shtml
>
> ROTFLMAO.
> Coppcock does it again!!!!
> Shriller and shriller as global cooling takes hold!
> This area constitutes about 2% of Antarctica, and as the article says,
> through gritted teeth, the other 98% of Antarctica is COOLING!
>
> QUOTE: "Much of the continent is not warming and some parts are even
> cooling, Vaughan said. However, the western peninsula, which includes
> the Wilkins ice shelf, juts out into the ocean and is warming. "
>
> ALSO NB:
> There is a small area of significant warming in the peninsula that
> points towards South America, but this is less than 2% of Antarctica's
> total land mass.
>
> Extract From: More Ice Than Ever In Antarctica
>
> Patrick J. Michaels
>
> February 5, 2008
>
> http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1727
> --
>
> Warmest Regards
>
> Bonzo
>
> ". researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany
> report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years,
> accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over
> the last 100 years."http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=2
87279412587175
"00BNZ" <0...@d...com> wrote
> "Attributing global climate change to human CO2 production is akin to
> trying to diagnose an automotive problem by ignoring the engine
> (analogous to the Sun in the climate system) and the transmission (water
> vapour) and instead focusing entirely, not on one nut on a rear wheel,
> which would be analogous to total CO2, but on one thread on that nut,
> which represents the human contribution." Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of
> the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP.com), Former Professor
> Of Climatology, University of Winnipeg
And once again you are caught lying. Timothy Ball isn't a former professor
of climatology, and the University of Winnipeg has no climatoloty program.
Ball is a former geography professor with no training in climatology who
couldn't make it as a university professor (pubishing a total of 4 papers in
his entire career), and then cashing in by jumping on the big oil Gravy
train.
You should ask Ball about the little incident concerning the
Misappropriattion of University Resources at the University of Calgary by
his propaganda group - Friends of Science..
"00BNZ" <0...@d...com> wrote
> Shriller and shriller as global cooling takes hold!
What Cooling. Here are the figures for the last decade.
1998 14.57 *********************o*****
1999 14.33 *****************>>>>o
2000 14.33 *****************>>>>>o
2001 14.48 ************************o
2002 14.56 *************************o**
2003 14.55 **************************o*
2004 14.49 *************************>>o
2005 14.63 *****************************o**
2006 14.54 ***************************>>>o
2007 14,57 *****************************
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
So Fool, who is paying you to post lies to this newsgroup?
"00BNZ" <0...@d...com> wrote
> Some perspective On Hyped Antarctic Ice Shelf Collapses
> Posted by jennifer
> http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog
Ahahahahaahah... Posted on Jennifer's BLOG..
BLOG.... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Bonzo goes to Jennifer's BLOG for all his Climate science.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
Meanwhile...
Hundreds of Glaciers Melting Faster in Antarctica
-------------------------------------------------
Brian Handwerk
for National Geographic News
June 6, 2007
Hundreds of glaciers in Antarctica are melting faster as the region's
climate warms, a new satellite study has revealed.
As the rivers of ice flow into the ocean, they could cause global sea levels
to rise higher and faster than scientists had previously predicted.
Satellite images of more than 300 glaciers on the Antarctic Peninsula showed
that they were flowing some 12 percent faster in 2003 than they were in 1993
(see an interactive map of Antarctica).
"It is increasingly apparent that glaciers can be sensitive on much shorter
time scales than traditionally thought," said lead author Hamish Pritchard
of the British Antarctic Survey.
"What is telling about [the study results] is that so many glaciers are
behaving in such a similar way, and so quickly," he added.
"This is strong evidence for a big change in climate on a regional scale
such as has been observed."
Pritchard noted that the Antarctic Peninsula's annual average air
temperature has risen 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit (3 degrees Celsius) since 1950,
while near-surface ocean waters have warmed 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit (1 degree
Celsius).
Eighty-seven percent of the peninsula's glaciers have been retreating during
the same period, he added.
The Antarctic findings may not be unique-they are similar to recent reports
from coastal Greenland.
Will the "High Seas" Get Higher?
An Antarctic glacial meltdown could have dramatic impacts for ocean level
rise.
The latest estimates for sea level rise cited by the International Panel on
Climate Change (IPCC) are based largely on the melting of nonpolar glaciers
and the expansion of warmer ocean waters.
The estimates do not account for the impact of dynamic effects like those
seen in Antarctica, because the processes are poorly understood.
Dynamic effects are happening, Pritchard said.
"They are quite large in magnitude and are likely to get larger so that they
could dominate the sea level rise signal.
"The importance of dynamic effects is that they can transfer ice very
quickly into the sea, much quicker than melting the ice sheet or glacier
surface and letting it run off as water."
Just how high could seas rise? Pritchard explained that no one can be sure.
"We're not yet at the stage where we can come up with new sea-level rise
predictions except to say that it is very likely to be larger than the
numbers in the IPCC report."
Pritchard and colleagues from British Antarctic Survey published their
findings this week in the Journal of Geophysical Research.
Glacial Splashdowns Like "Stack of Dominoes"
The study suggests that faster glacier flows are caused by a thinning of the
glaciers' lowest layers, the sections that extend down through fjords and
into the sea.
The weight of these lower layers is supported by seawater rather than by
land. As the ice thins, the glaciers become more buoyant, allowing them to
flow faster toward the sea.
"What we are finding is that these glaciers are very sensitive to the
conditions at their ocean boundaries," said Ian Howat, a researcher with the
University of Washington's Polar Science Center who is unaffiliated with the
study.
"Apparently a relatively small amount of melting at this boundary, either
from the increased air or ocean temperatures, is enough to destabilize the
entire glacier.
"These glaciers act like a stack of dominoes, with a slight nudge at the
front causing the entire stack to fall over," he added.
Howat cautioned that many aspects of glacial dynamics, and how they could
react to climate change, remain mysterious.
"The question still remains as to whether the changes we're observing are
permanent or are a more regular purging of the system," he said.
In the case of Greenland the amount of ice that the glaciers has lost is
very small relative to the size of the ice sheet, he said, so the ice sheet
could restabilize and even grow again with a small amount of cooling or
increased precipitation.
"However the glaciers in Alaska or the Antarctic Peninsula aren't supplied
by a vast ice sheet," Howat added, "so for them to regrow or even stabilize
for the long term would take a much more drastic reversal in current climate
trends."
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