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11. Date: 2008-07-06 04:20:25
Subject: Re: Market question for you geniuses
From: "FrediFizzx" <f...@h...com> Search message by this author

"phil scott" <p...@p...net> wrote in message
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depression.. 10 years at the bottom, 10 more at least to dig out...
starting a few months ago, bottom will be over the next two or three
years if not suddenly...I predict a sudden drop and panic but not to
the bottom... bottom comes in years following. No up spikes after
that.

the short opportunities are now unless you miss timing and get caught
in a short squeeze.. that will happen pervasively also as insiders
manipulate the markets.

=================

Hmm... Apparently someone found what they think is a workin' Ouija
board. Little does he know that they are defective ones secretly
planted by the market Kabal to headfake the outsiders.

Fred

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12. Date: 2008-07-06 05:05:09
Subject: Re: Market question for you geniuses
From: b...@w...net (bob wald) Search message by this author

they just sold leases off fla......something over 1bil barrels oil
expected....
afew tcfg too....

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13. Date: 2008-07-06 07:06:19
Subject: Re: Market question for you geniuses
From: ausound <a...@s...com> Search message by this author

b...@w...net (bob wald) wrote in news:21484-48705285-648
@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net:

> they just sold leases off fla......something over 1bil barrels oil
> expected....
> afew tcfg too....
>
>

finding and producing natural gas in the new site will be expensive.
Three-dimensional mapping of the ocean floor, which must happen before
any drilling, could take up to two years, Strive said. If a promising
site is found, engineers must drill up to three miles below the ocean
surface to extract the oil or natural gas.

And it will take years before the company begins producing anything at
the site — and there is no guarantee of success. A company can have as
much as $4 billion invested and a wait of up to five years before seeing
any return on the investment,

a 2006 Congressional compromise that allows drilling on 8.3 million acres
more than 125 miles off the Panhandle — an area that had been covered by
the moratorium, which was enacted out of environmental concerns. In
exchange, the state got a no-drilling buffer along the rest of its
beaches.

In March, four companies — Australia-based BHP Billiton Petroleum
Deepwater Inc., Houston-based Anadarko E&P Co., Shell Offshore Inc. and
Italian oil and natural gas company Eni SpA — purchased leases on 36 Gulf
of Mexico tracts under the 2006 compromise.



Some companies had leases to drill off the Panhandle before the 1981
moratorium. They were grandfathered in when the moratorium passed because
they were already actively exploring in their lease areas.


The Interior Department estimates there could be 18 billion barrels of
oil and 77 trillion cubic feet of natural gas beneath the 574 million
acres of federal coastal waters that are now off-limits.

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14. Date: 2008-07-06 10:14:47
Subject: Re: Market question for you geniuses
From: b...@w...net (bob wald) Search message by this author

yeah thats it....i was only counting the oil/ng that might be bought up
in the next couple yrs...
i dont think theyll get most of that in less than 5 yrs....lol

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15. Date: 2008-07-06 14:21:38
Subject: Re: Market question for you geniuses
From: "Buff-Meister \"BUFFETTHATER\"" <B...@g...com> Search message by this author

Again, fredfuxxup the loser, the born loser.

The euro has only been around less than 10 years, in its history its
gone from .89 to 1.70. And all gains at the USD. The usd index
is in a solid downward channel with no sign of bottoming in 50 years.

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16. Date: 2008-07-06 17:10:47
Subject: Re: Market question for you geniuses
From: phil scott <p...@p...net> Search message by this author

On Jul 5, 9:20 pm, "FrediFizzx" <f...@h...com> wrote:
> "phil scott" <p...@p...net> wrote in message
>
> news:50629e51-e619-4ba3-87db-58665c4ef632@l64g2000hs
e.googlegroups.com...
>
> depression.. 10 years at the bottom, 10 more at least to dig out...
> starting a few months ago, bottom will be over the next two or three
> years if not suddenly...I predict a sudden drop and panic but not to
> the bottom... bottom comes in years following.  No up spikes after
> that.
>
> the short opportunities are now unless you miss timing and get caught
> in a short squeeze.. that will happen pervasively also as insiders
> manipulate the markets.
>
> =================
>
> Hmm...  Apparently someone found what they think is a workin' Ouija
> board.  Little does he know that they are defective ones secretly
> planted by the market Kabal to headfake the outsiders.
>
> Fred

You are a moron fred...

aside from that, what you and many others miss historically is the
underlying drivers..not the business cycle drivers, not the technical
drivers you are focused on..that can be and are manipulated, leading
to support for your Ouija board comment.. that is in fact a guess,
because it is manipulated.


Beneath that, are the cultural drivers, national life cycle drivers,
those that drive a nation to collapse, not depression, but collapse...
(its a 260 year cycle with very little variation historically).

Ive posted on that extensively ...wont repeat myself here. a good book
on the subject is 'the comming depression 1990' by Ravi Batra,
analysis of russian economisist Kondratiev.


Phil scott

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17. Date: 2008-07-06 17:16:25
Subject: Re: Market question for you geniuses
From: phil scott <p...@p...net> Search message by this author

On Jul 6, 7:21 am, "Buff-Meister \"BUFFETTHATER\""
<B...@g...com> wrote:
> Again, fredfuxxup the loser, the born loser.
>
> The euro has only been around less than 10 years, in its history its
> gone from .89 to 1.70.   And all gains at the USD.    The usd index
> is in a solid downward channel with no sign of bottoming in 50 years.

I doo believe our glorious US govt will be prompted to keep printing
the USD until it is nearly worthless..that necessary to pay off a
national debt with federal and ss pensions figured in at around 50
trillion dollars.

payment will require a debased dollar, imo.


Phil scott

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18. Date: 2008-07-06 18:13:42
Subject: Re: Market question for you geniuses
From: "FrediFizzx" <f...@h...com> Search message by this author

On Jul 6, 10:10 am, phil scott <p...@p...net> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 9:20 pm, "FrediFizzx" <f...@h...com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "phil scott" <p...@p...net> wrote in message
>
> >news:50629e51-e619-4ba3-87db-58665c4ef632@l64g2000h
se.googlegroups.com...
>
> > depression.. 10 years at the bottom, 10 more at least to dig
> > out...
> > starting a few months ago, bottom will be over the next two or
> > three
> > years if not suddenly...I predict a sudden drop and panic but not
> > to
> > the bottom... bottom comes in years following. No up spikes after
> > that.
>
> > the short opportunities are now unless you miss timing and get
> > caught
> > in a short squeeze.. that will happen pervasively also as insiders
> > manipulate the markets.
>
> > =================
>
> > Hmm... Apparently someone found what they think is a workin'
> > Ouija
> > board. Little does he know that they are defective ones secretly
> > planted by the market Kabal to headfake the outsiders.
>
> > Fred
>
> You are a moron fred...

Wonderful. And how intelligent is name calling? Your age / IQ is
sticking out like a sore thumb.

> aside from that, what you and many others miss historically is the
> underlying drivers..not the business cycle drivers, not the
> technical
> drivers you are focused on..that can be and are manipulated, leading
> to support for your Ouija board comment.. that is in fact a guess,
> because it is manipulated.

Lucky for me that I am in the market Kabal. ;-)

> Beneath that, are the cultural drivers, national life cycle drivers,
> those that drive a nation to collapse, not depression, but
> collapse...
> (its a 260 year cycle with very little variation historically).
>
> Ive posted on that extensively ...wont repeat myself here. a good
> book
> on the subject is 'the comming depression 1990' by Ravi Batra,
> analysis of russian economisist Kondratiev.

Economists have successfully predicted 12 of the last 2 recessions.
And you think you can do better? NOT! LOL! Most of the world is
having a fun time right now building for the future. They don't have
their heads buried in your paranoid BS.

Fred

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19. Date: 2008-07-06 18:55:27
Subject: Re: Market question for you geniuses
From: "FrediFizzx" <f...@h...com> Search message by this author

"phil scott" <p...@p...net> wrote in message
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On Jul 6, 7:21 am, "Buff-Meister \"BUFFETTHATER\""
<B...@g...com> wrote:
> Again, fredfuxxup the loser, the born loser.
>
> The euro has only been around less than 10 years, in its history its
> gone from .89 to 1.70. And all gains at the USD. The usd index
> is in a solid downward channel with no sign of bottoming in 50
> years.

I doo believe our glorious US govt will be prompted to keep printing
the USD until it is nearly worthless..that necessary to pay off a
national debt with federal and ss pensions figured in at around 50
trillion dollars.

payment will require a debased dollar, imo.


Phil scott
==================

You two doom and gloomers should get a room. BH has an excuse. He is
a confessed no-class short seller. It is his job to spread lame BS to
talk the market down. What is your lame paranoid excuse?

The euro is in its only and last heyday. It's doomed. Ireland put
the first peg in its coffin by rejecting the Lisbon Treaty.

Fred

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20. Date: 2008-07-06 19:05:11
Subject: Re: Market question for you geniuses
From: phil scott <p...@p...net> Search message by this author

On Jul 6, 11:13 am, "FrediFizzx" <f...@h...com> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 10:10 am, phil scott <p...@p...net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 5, 9:20 pm, "FrediFizzx" <f...@h...com> wrote:
>
> > > "phil scott" <p...@p...net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:50629e51-e619-4ba3-87db-58665c4ef632@l64g2000h
se.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > depression.. 10 years at the bottom, 10 more at least to dig
> > > out...
> > > starting a few months ago, bottom will be over the next two or
> > > three
> > > years if not suddenly...I predict a sudden drop and panic but not
> > > to
> > > the bottom... bottom comes in years following.  No up spikes after
> > > that.
>
> > > the short opportunities are now unless you miss timing and get
> > > caught
> > > in a short squeeze.. that will happen pervasively also as insiders
> > > manipulate the markets.
>
> > > =================
>
> > > Hmm...  Apparently someone found what they think is a workin'
> > > Ouija
> > > board.  Little does he know that they are defective ones secretly
> > > planted by the market Kabal to headfake the outsiders.
>
> > > Fred
>
> > You are a moron fred...
>
> Wonderful.  And how intelligent is name calling?  Your age /  IQ is
> sticking out like a sore thumb.
>
> > aside from that,  what you and many others miss historically is the
> > underlying drivers..not the business cycle drivers, not the
> > technical
> > drivers you are focused on..that can be and are manipulated, leading
> > to support for your Ouija board comment.. that is in fact a guess,
> > because it is manipulated.
>
> Lucky for me that I am in the market Kabal.  ;-)
>
> > Beneath that, are the cultural drivers, national life cycle drivers,
> > those that drive a nation to collapse, not depression, but
> > collapse...
> > (its a 260 year cycle with very little variation historically).
>
> > Ive posted on that extensively ...wont repeat myself here. a good
> > book
> > on the subject is 'the comming depression 1990' by Ravi Batra,
> > analysis of russian economisist Kondratiev.
>
> Economists have successfully predicted 12 of the last 2 recessions.
> And you think you can do better?   NOT!  LOL!  Most of the  world is
> having a fun time right now building for the future.  They don't have
> their heads buried in your paranoid BS.
>
> Fred- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



You have prediction of normal business cycles, recessions/ depressions
confused with the nation collapse ccycle...thats limitlessly
worse.

you are correct though... all are predictable, not the details, not
each stock price or the day to day timing...but these are predictable
and have been predicted.

and some, unannounced to you and the general public ride the
international life cycle curves... its not rocket science.

but it fools people such as yourself who are not looking beyond these
shorter term events and seem to think that is all there is to
it...recessions/ depressions... then recovery.

that is only because these have not studied history and are adamant in
their ignorance...you fit the class fred...sorry.

Fortunately the situation is curable.


Phil scott

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