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Now, since the population has been robbed to pay the fat cats on the
Wall Street here are some pieces of legislation we need to insure that
the Wall Street gamblers just don't take money and run, loughing in
the face of the hardworking Americans fired in order to boost
corporate profits.
1. Make illegal for a company who layoff workers to "survive into a
recession" to pay any dividends for at least 1 year after the last
"downsizing". If a company is sound enough to pay dividends, then it
is also sound enough to keep paying wages to their workers.
2. Company can not make a layoffs to "survive the recession" how long
they still pay the CEO more than 2 times the non-managerial average
wage. That is, if the company is in dire-straits, then first they have
to prove that they did their best to recover and putting people out of
work it is the last solution to survive. Therefore, first they have to
cut the unproductive expenses to executive and top management, before
taking severe actions as layoffs.
3. Once the economy enters a recession, the government must cap the
interest rates the population pays on credit cards. If a persons lost
his job, he shall be eligible to apply for a break in credit card
repayment until he start working again. During this break, the
interest is to be suspended. It is an unspeakable for a greedy credit
card company to try to extort fees from the unemployed Joe, since he
is unemployed exactly because of the recession created by the greedy
credit card companies, and he as taxpayers already payed all the
interest in the form of the bailout.
4. Once the economy enters into a recession, the health insurance
companies must be forbidden under the criminal law to look at the
health history of a person applying for individual coverage. Must be a
crime to deny coverage or to charge an unaffordable rate due to
preconditions for a person who lost the coverage from his employer.
5. Increase the duration of unemployment insurance for all the
duration of the recession and increase the payment.
To collect the money, increase taxation on profit for the financial
corporations and rich shareholders.
It is time to stand for your own rights, you already payed for.
Democracy Highlander <d...@g...com> wrote
> Now, since the population has been robbed to pay the fat cats on the
> Wall Street here are some pieces of legislation we need to insure that
> the Wall Street gamblers just don't take money and run, loughing in the
> face of the hardworking Americans fired in order to boost corporate profits.
More mindlessly silly crap.
> 1. Make illegal for a company who layoff workers to "survive into
> a recession" to pay any dividends for at least 1 year after the last
> "downsizing". If a company is sound enough to pay dividends, then
> it is also sound enough to keep paying wages to their workers.
Completely impractical. The investors are entitled to a return on their
investments, and that includes the 'workers' with pension funds etc.
> 2. Company can not make a layoffs to "survive the recession" how long
> they still pay the CEO more than 2 times the non-managerial average wage.
Even sillier. Great way to see that no CEO who is any good will bother with any of
those companys.
> That is, if the company is in dire-straits, then first they have to
> prove that they did their best to recover and putting people out
> of work it is the last solution to survive. Therefore, first they
> have to cut the unproductive expenses to executive and top
> management, before taking severe actions as layoffs.
Even sillier.
> 3. Once the economy enters a recession, the government must
> cap the interest rates the population pays on credit cards.
Even sillier. With a profound credit crunch, that will only make the credit crunch
much worse.
> If a persons lost his job, he shall be eligible to apply for a
> break in credit card repayment until he start working again.
Even sillier. With no job he's at a big risk of default, stupid.
> During this break, the interest is to be suspended.
Even sillier. With no job he's at a big risk of default, stupid.
> It is an unspeakable for a greedy credit card company
> to try to extort fees from the unemployed Joe,
Even sillier. He's the one that they have to spend the most on getting them to pay
what they owe, fool.
> since he is unemployed exactly because of the recession
> created by the greedy credit card companies,
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant little fantasys.
> and he as taxpayers already payed all the interest in the form of the bailout.
Pigs arse the taxpayers have done anything of the sort.
> 4. Once the economy enters into a recession, the health insurance
> companies must be forbidden under the criminal law to look at the
> health history of a person applying for individual coverage. Must be
> a crime to deny coverage or to charge an unaffordable rate due to
> preconditions for a person who lost the coverage from his employer.
Completely off in cloud cuckcoo land, as always.
> 5. Increase the duration of unemployment insurance for
> all the duration of the recession and increase the payment.
Three guesses who gets to pay for that ?
> To collect the money, increase taxation on profit for the financial corporations
Pity that fuck all of them are making any profit.
> and rich shareholders.
How are you going to define rich, fool ?
> It is time to stand for your own rights, you already payed for.
Wota fucking wanker.
Rod Speed wrote:
> Democracy Highlander <d...@g...com> wrote
>
>
>>Now, since the population has been robbed to pay the fat cats on the
>>Wall Street here are some pieces of legislation we need to insure that
>>the Wall Street gamblers just don't take money and run, loughing in the
>>face of the hardworking Americans fired in order to boost corporate profits.
>
> More mindlessly silly crap.
You put your .sig first?
>>1. Make illegal for a company who layoff workers to "survive into
>>a recession" to pay any dividends for at least 1 year after the last
>>"downsizing". If a company is sound enough to pay dividends, then
>>it is also sound enough to keep paying wages to their workers.
>
> Completely impractical. The investors are entitled to a return on their
> investments,
Investors aren't entitled to anything. If you're just sitting on your
butt waiting for a check, you can wait a while longer.
> and that includes the 'workers' with pension funds etc.
What, you don't believe there are "workers"? Workers should be sure to
have a job first, and worry about their retirement accounts later.
>>2. Company can not make a layoffs to "survive the recession" how long
>>they still pay the CEO more than 2 times the non-managerial average wage.
>
> Even sillier. Great way to see that no CEO who is any good will bother with any of
those companys.
CEOs are overpaid parasites. If they were any good their company
wouldn't need a bailout in the first place.
>>That is, if the company is in dire-straits, then first they have to
>>prove that they did their best to recover and putting people out
>>of work it is the last solution to survive. Therefore, first they
>>have to cut the unproductive expenses to executive and top
>>management, before taking severe actions as layoffs.
>
> Even sillier.
Yes, you are.
>>3. Once the economy enters a recession, the government must
>>cap the interest rates the population pays on credit cards.
>
> Even sillier. With a profound credit crunch, that will only make the credit crunch
much worse.
Fuck the banks. Credit card rates should have been capped long ago.
If the banks want bailouts, they should be highly regulated for the
benefit of everyone.
>>If a persons lost his job, he shall be eligible to apply for a
>>break in credit card repayment until he start working again.
>
> Even sillier. With no job he's at a big risk of default, stupid.
So what? A moratorium on credit card payments - and on accrual of
interest - isn't unreasonable for an unemployed person in an
economic downturn.
>>During this break, the interest is to be suspended.
>
> Even sillier. With no job he's at a big risk of default, stupid.
So what? The banks caused the economic collapse.
>>It is an unspeakable for a greedy credit card company
>>to try to extort fees from the unemployed Joe,
>
> Even sillier. He's the one that they have to spend the most on getting them to pay
what they owe, fool.
Fuck the banks.
>>since he is unemployed exactly because of the recession
>>created by the greedy credit card companies,
>
> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant little fantasys.
Blah, blah, blah. Ignorant right-wingers call names when they don't
have facts or arguments.
>>and he as taxpayers already payed all the interest in the form of the bailout.
>
> Pigs arse the taxpayers have done anything of the sort.
You should try reading the newspaper occasionally. But you're a stupid
Brit, apparently.
>>4. Once the economy enters into a recession, the health insurance
>>companies must be forbidden under the criminal law to look at the
>>health history of a person applying for individual coverage. Must be
>>a crime to deny coverage or to charge an unaffordable rate due to
>>preconditions for a person who lost the coverage from his employer.
>
> Completely off in cloud cuckcoo land, as always.
You are? I'm not surprised.
>>5. Increase the duration of unemployment insurance for
>>all the duration of the recession and increase the payment.
>
> Three guesses who gets to pay for that ?
The CEOs.
>>To collect the money, increase taxation on profit for the financial corporations
>
> Pity that fuck all of them are making any profit.
Any profit? Obscene profits.
>>and rich shareholders.
>
> How are you going to define rich, fool ?
We can start with those getting $5 million a year.
>>It is time to stand for your own rights, you already payed for.
>
> Wota fucking wanker.
An even better .sig for ya.
--Jeff
--
I learned that ... the most grinding
poverty is a trifling evil compared
with the inequality of classes.
--William Morris
Jeffrey Turner <j...@l...com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Democracy Highlander <d...@g...com> wrote
>>> Now, since the population has been robbed to pay the fat cats on the
>>> Wall Street here are some pieces of legislation we need to insure that the Wall
Street gamblers just don't take
>>> money and run, loughing in the face of the hardworking Americans fired in order
to boost corporate profits.
>> More mindlessly silly crap.
>>> 1. Make illegal for a company who layoff workers to "survive into
>>> a recession" to pay any dividends for at least 1 year after the last
>>> "downsizing". If a company is sound enough to pay dividends, then
>>> it is also sound enough to keep paying wages to their workers.
>> Completely impractical. The investors are entitled to a return on their
investments,
> Investors aren't entitled to anything.
Wrong. Without them there are no jobs at all, stupid.
> If you're just sitting on your butt waiting for a check, you can wait a while
longer.
Wrong, as always.
>> and that includes the 'workers' with pension funds etc.
> What, you don't believe there are "workers"?
Its just the name I was quoting, stupid.
> Workers should be sure to have a job first, and worry about their retirement
accounts later.
Bit hard if they have already retired, stupid.
>>> 2. Company can not make a layoffs to "survive the recession" how long they still
pay the CEO more than 2 times the
>>> non-managerial average wage.
>> Even sillier. Great way to see that no CEO who is any good will bother with any of
those companys.
> CEOs are overpaid parasites.
Sure, but plenty of 'workers' are that in spades.
> If they were any good their company wouldn't need a bailout in the first place.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever,
Without them, there would be no jobs, cretin.
>>> That is, if the company is in dire-straits, then first they have to
>>> prove that they did their best to recover and putting people out
>>> of work it is the last solution to survive. Therefore, first they
>>> have to cut the unproductive expenses to executive and top
>>> management, before taking severe actions as layoffs.
>> Even sillier.
> Yes, you are.
Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
>>> 3. Once the economy enters a recession, the government must
>>> cap the interest rates the population pays on credit cards.
>> Even sillier. With a profound credit crunch, that will only make the credit crunch
much worse.
> Fuck the banks.
No businesses can exist without them, fool.
> Credit card rates should have been capped long ago.
Then there's the real world. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing your to
pay a cent of interest.
> If the banks want bailouts, they should be highly regulated for the benefit of
everyone.
They already are, fool.
>>> If a persons lost his job, he shall be eligible to apply for a
>>> break in credit card repayment until he start working again.
>> Even sillier. With no job he's at a big risk of default, stupid.
> So what?
So he doesnt get any moratorium.
> A moratorium on credit card payments - and on accrual of interest - isn't
unreasonable for an unemployed person in an
> economic downturn.
Completely silly, comrade.
>>> During this break, the interest is to be suspended.
>> Even sillier. With no job he's at a big risk of default, stupid.
> So what? The banks caused the economic collapse.
The regulators did, actually.
>>> It is an unspeakable for a greedy credit card company
>>> to try to extort fees from the unemployed Joe,
>> Even sillier. He's the one that they have to spend the most on getting them to pay
what they owe, fool.
> Fuck the banks.
Fuck wankers like you, actually. With telephone pole.
>>> since he is unemployed exactly because of the recession
>>> created by the greedy credit card companies,
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant little fantasys.
> Blah, blah, blah. Ignorant right-wingers call names when they don't have facts or
arguments.
Corse you never ever do anything like that yourself, eh ?
>>> and he as taxpayers already payed all the interest in the form of the bailout.
>> Pigs arse the taxpayers have done anything of the sort.
> You should try reading the newspaper occasionally.
None of them that are worth reading say anything even remotely resembling anything
like that.
> But you're a stupid Brit, apparently.
Guess again, child.
>>> 4. Once the economy enters into a recession, the health insurance
>>> companies must be forbidden under the criminal law to look at the
>>> health history of a person applying for individual coverage. Must be
>>> a crime to deny coverage or to charge an unaffordable rate due to
>>> preconditions for a person who lost the coverage from his employer.
>> Completely off in cloud cuckcoo land, as always.
> You are? I'm not surprised.
Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
>>> 5. Increase the duration of unemployment insurance for
>>> all the duration of the recession and increase the payment.
>> Three guesses who gets to pay for that ?
> The CEOs.
Guess again, child.
>>> To collect the money, increase taxation on profit for the financial corporations
>> Pity that fuck all of them are making any profit.
> Any profit? Obscene profits.
Have fun explaining how come so many of them have gone bust so spectacularly, child.
>>> and rich shareholders.
>> How are you going to define rich, fool ?
> We can start with those getting $5 million a year.
Not enough of those to produce much money, child.
>>> It is time to stand for your own rights, you already payed for.
>> Wota fucking wanker.
> An even better .sig for ya.
Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
Get one to help you before posting again. If anyone is actually stupid enough to let
you anywhere near one.
My nomination for the Abbott & Costello School of Economics Award!!!
http://tinyurl.com/49m74b
Democracy Highlander wrote on 10/4/08 7:33 PM:
> Now, since the population has been robbed to pay the fat cats on the
> Wall Street here are some pieces of legislation we need to insure that
> the Wall Street gamblers just don't take money and run, loughing in
> the face of the hardworking Americans fired in order to boost
> corporate profits.
>
> 1. Make illegal for a company who layoff workers to "survive into a
> recession" to pay any dividends for at least 1 year after the last
> "downsizing". If a company is sound enough to pay dividends, then it
> is also sound enough to keep paying wages to their workers.
>
> 2. Company can not make a layoffs to "survive the recession" how long
> they still pay the CEO more than 2 times the non-managerial average
> wage. That is, if the company is in dire-straits, then first they have
> to prove that they did their best to recover and putting people out of
> work it is the last solution to survive. Therefore, first they have to
> cut the unproductive expenses to executive and top management, before
> taking severe actions as layoffs.
>
> 3. Once the economy enters a recession, the government must cap the
> interest rates the population pays on credit cards. If a persons lost
> his job, he shall be eligible to apply for a break in credit card
> repayment until he start working again. During this break, the
> interest is to be suspended. It is an unspeakable for a greedy credit
> card company to try to extort fees from the unemployed Joe, since he
> is unemployed exactly because of the recession created by the greedy
> credit card companies, and he as taxpayers already payed all the
> interest in the form of the bailout.
>
> 4. Once the economy enters into a recession, the health insurance
> companies must be forbidden under the criminal law to look at the
> health history of a person applying for individual coverage. Must be a
> crime to deny coverage or to charge an unaffordable rate due to
> preconditions for a person who lost the coverage from his employer.
>
> 5. Increase the duration of unemployment insurance for all the
> duration of the recession and increase the payment.
> To collect the money, increase taxation on profit for the financial
> corporations and rich shareholders.
>
> It is time to stand for your own rights, you already payed for.
"Democracy Highlander" <d...@g...com> wrote in message
news:39d4b559-df4d-498d-845c-1eec67db97e5@q9g2000hsb
.googlegroups.com...
> Now, since the population has been robbed to pay the fat cats on the
> Wall Street here are some pieces of legislation we need to insure that
> the Wall Street gamblers just don't take money and run, loughing in
> the face of the hardworking Americans fired in order to boost
> corporate profits.
>
[snip]
>
LOL! Let me unveil my own proposal. I should be paid $1 mil, recession or
not, and the curse that I may have inadvertently put on this economy will be
lifted.
e.
Rod Speed wrote:
> Jeffrey Turner <j...@l...com> wrote
>
>>Rod Speed wrote
>>
>>>Democracy Highlander <d...@g...com> wrote
>
>
>>>>Now, since the population has been robbed to pay the fat cats on the
>>>>Wall Street here are some pieces of legislation we need to insure that the Wall
Street gamblers just don't take
>>>>money and run, loughing in the face of the hardworking Americans fired in order
to boost corporate profits.
>
>
>>>More mindlessly silly crap.
>
>
>>>>1. Make illegal for a company who layoff workers to "survive into
>>>>a recession" to pay any dividends for at least 1 year after the last
>>>>"downsizing". If a company is sound enough to pay dividends, then
>>>>it is also sound enough to keep paying wages to their workers.
>
>
>>>Completely impractical. The investors are entitled to a return on their
investments,
>
>
>>Investors aren't entitled to anything.
>
>
> Wrong. Without them there are no jobs at all, stupid.
We can take their money and chop them up for dog food, no problem.
Investors who have lost their money are totally worthless.
>>If you're just sitting on your butt waiting for a check, you can wait a while
longer.
>
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
>
>>>and that includes the 'workers' with pension funds etc.
>
>
>>What, you don't believe there are "workers"?
>
>
> Its just the name I was quoting, stupid.
>
>
>>Workers should be sure to have a job first, and worry about their retirement
accounts later.
>
>
> Bit hard if they have already retired, stupid.
I suggest liquidating the assets of the CEO and board and sharing those.
>>>>2. Company can not make a layoffs to "survive the recession" how long they still
pay the CEO more than 2 times the
>>>>non-managerial average wage.
>
>
>>>Even sillier. Great way to see that no CEO who is any good will bother with any of
those companys.
>
>
>>CEOs are overpaid parasites.
>
>
> Sure, but plenty of 'workers' are that in spades.
You're just another anti-American twit.
>>If they were any good their company wouldn't need a bailout in the first place.
>
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
> never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever,
>
> Without them, there would be no jobs, cretin.
You really were born yesterday, eh? There were jobs for thousands of
years before God created the CEO. You think Americans are morons and
need a pharoah in a three-piece suit and showering under gold-plated
shower heads to keep them churning out widgets, but that isn't even
close to true.
>>>>That is, if the company is in dire-straits, then first they have to
>>>>prove that they did their best to recover and putting people out
>>>>of work it is the last solution to survive. Therefore, first they
>>>>have to cut the unproductive expenses to executive and top
>>>>management, before taking severe actions as layoffs.
>
>
>>>Even sillier.
>
>
>>Yes, you are.
>
>
> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
You don't have to advertise your mental age. You're still wrong.
>>>>3. Once the economy enters a recession, the government must
>>>>cap the interest rates the population pays on credit cards.
>
>
>>>Even sillier. With a profound credit crunch, that will only make the credit crunch
much worse.
>
>
>>Fuck the banks.
>
> No businesses can exist without them, fool.
If the gov't can lend them money, the gov't can lend directly to those
who need it.
>>Credit card rates should have been capped long ago.
>
>
> Then there's the real world. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing your
to pay a cent of interest.
>
>
>>If the banks want bailouts, they should be highly regulated for the benefit of
everyone.
>
>
> They already are, fool.
Obviously they weren't regulated enough.
>>>>If a persons lost his job, he shall be eligible to apply for a
>>>>break in credit card repayment until he start working again.
>
>
>>>Even sillier. With no job he's at a big risk of default, stupid.
>
>
>>So what?
>
> So he doesnt get any moratorium.
Fuck the banks. Maybe they'd be less gung-ho about downsizing if they
knew they'd stand to lose interest payments.
>>A moratorium on credit card payments - and on accrual of interest - isn't
unreasonable for an unemployed person in an
>>economic downturn.
>
> Completely silly, comrade.
We need an economic system that works for the rest of us.
>>>>During this break, the interest is to be suspended.
>
>
>>>Even sillier. With no job he's at a big risk of default, stupid.
>
>
>>So what? The banks caused the economic collapse.
>
>
> The regulators did, actually.
By deregulating too much. By turning a blind eye to the greed.
>>>>It is an unspeakable for a greedy credit card company
>>>>to try to extort fees from the unemployed Joe,
>
>
>>>Even sillier. He's the one that they have to spend the most on getting them to pay
what they owe, fool.
>
>
>>Fuck the banks.
>
>
> Fuck wankers like you, actually. With telephone pole.
>
>
>>>>since he is unemployed exactly because of the recession
>>>>created by the greedy credit card companies,
>
>
>>>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant little fantasys.
>
>
>>Blah, blah, blah. Ignorant right-wingers call names when they don't have facts or
arguments.
>
>
> Corse you never ever do anything like that yourself, eh ?
It's exhausting trying to educate a wingnut about economics.
>>>>and he as taxpayers already payed all the interest in the form of the bailout.
>
>
>>>Pigs arse the taxpayers have done anything of the sort.
>
>
>>You should try reading the newspaper occasionally.
>
>
> None of them that are worth reading say anything even remotely resembling anything
like that.
I wouldn't call WingNut Daily or the Weakly Substandard worth reading.
>>But you're a stupid Brit, apparently.
>
> Guess again, child.
Just a wannabee, eh? I've never seen such Brit slang.
>>>>4. Once the economy enters into a recession, the health insurance
>>>>companies must be forbidden under the criminal law to look at the
>>>>health history of a person applying for individual coverage. Must be
>>>>a crime to deny coverage or to charge an unaffordable rate due to
>>>>preconditions for a person who lost the coverage from his employer.
>
>
>>>Completely off in cloud cuckcoo land, as always.
>
>
>>You are? I'm not surprised.
>
>
> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
>
>
>>>>5. Increase the duration of unemployment insurance for
>>>>all the duration of the recession and increase the payment.
>
>
>>>Three guesses who gets to pay for that ?
>
>
>>The CEOs.
>
>
> Guess again, child.
Yeah, you want the rest of us to pay.
>>>>To collect the money, increase taxation on profit for the financial corporations
>
>
>>>Pity that fuck all of them are making any profit.
>
>
>>Any profit? Obscene profits.
>
>
> Have fun explaining how come so many of them have gone bust so spectacularly,
child.
Because they're greedy, overpaid idiots.
>>>>and rich shareholders.
>
>
>>>How are you going to define rich, fool ?
>
>
>>We can start with those getting $5 million a year.
>
>
> Not enough of those to produce much money, child.
The five highest paid hedge fund managers made over a billion apiece
last year. It's a start, anyway. There's enough income there to put a
sizeable dent in $700 billion, and if we go after wealth it would be
easy.
>>>>It is time to stand for your own rights, you already payed for.
>
>
>>>Wota fucking wanker.
>
>
>>An even better .sig for ya.
>
>
> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
>
> Get one to help you before posting again. If anyone is actually stupid enough to
let you anywhere near one.
Fuck off, gramps.
--Jeff
--
I learned that ... the most grinding
poverty is a trifling evil compared
with the inequality of classes.
--William Morris
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