Re: 160 Sq. Mi. Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses!

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1. Date: 2008-03-26 23:32:06
Subject: Re: 160 Sq. Mi. Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses!
From: "00BNZ" <0...@d...com> Search message by this author

"Roger Coppock" <r...@a...com> wrote in message
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> Huge Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses
> Global Warming Blamed For Ice Shelf Collapse That Puts Larger Area At
> Risk
> Please see:
> ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/tech/main39
68165.shtml

ROTFLMAO.
Coppcock does it again!!!!
Shriller and shriller as global cooling takes hold!
This area constitutes about 2% of Antarctica, and as the article says,
through gritted teeth, the other 98% of Antarctica is COOLING!

QUOTE: "Much of the continent is not warming and some parts are even
cooling, Vaughan said. However, the western peninsula, which includes
the Wilkins ice shelf, juts out into the ocean and is warming. "

ALSO NB:
There is a small area of significant warming in the peninsula that
points towards South America, but this is less than 2% of Antarctica's
total land mass.

Extract From: More Ice Than Ever In Antarctica

Patrick J. Michaels

February 5, 2008

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1727
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Warmest Regards

Bonzo

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2. Date: 2008-03-27 03:56:47
Subject: Re: 160 Sq. Mi. Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses!
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"00BNZ" <0...@d...com> wrote in message
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>
> "Roger Coppock" <r...@a...com> wrote in message
> news:3364d4c2-5ff9-4522-954c-aab442136cac@s12g2000pr
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>> Huge Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses
>> Global Warming Blamed For Ice Shelf Collapse That Puts Larger Area At
>> Risk
>> Please see:
>> ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/tech/main39
68165.shtml
>

Some perspective On Hyped Antarctic Ice Shelf Collapses

Posted by jennifer

March 26, 2008

http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/002869
.html

There is an Australian e-journal that is popular with many
government-types called crikey.com.au. Today the lead story began,

"A chunk of ice seven times the size of Manhattan (as big as the Isle of
Man if you prefer a more Anglo-centric news source) is hanging by a
thread to the main, still-frozen body of the western Antarctic.
Satellite images are showing the rapid disintegration of a 41km x 2.5km
ice chunk, a part of the Wilkins Ice Shelf that has been there for
hundreds, maybe 1,500 years. It is happening, the scientific consensus
seems to be, because the seas are getting warmer. It's that greenhouse
thing.

So, what to do? Blame China? No, we need to take individual
responsibility. Wait on the Garnaut report? No, too little too late. We
must act now ... of course! Let's turn some lights off on Saturday. For
an hour. That'll fix it. Meanwhile, click on the image below to watch a
video of what Earth Hour is up against." [end of quote]

Anyway, that's about as clever as it gets even from the so-called
alternative media and the story is much the same in The Australian.

Then of course there are the blogs, including some which actually
provide data and background information to put the collapse of the
icesheet in some context:

"In reality it and all the former shelves that collapsed are small and
most near the Antarctic peninsula which sticks well out from Antarctica
into the currents and winds of the South Atlantic and lies in a
tectonically active region with surface and subsurface active volcanic
activity. The vast continent has actually cooled since 1979...

"The full Wilkins 6,000 square mile ice shelf is just 0.39% of the
current ice sheet (just 0.1% of the extent last September). Only a small
portion of it between 1/10th-1/20th of Wilkins has separated so far,
like an icicle falling off a snow and ice covered house. And this winter
is coming on quickly. In fact the ice is returning so fast, it is
running an amazing 60% ahead (4.0 vs 2.5 million square km extent) of
last year when it set a new record. The ice extent is already
approaching the second highest level for extent since the measurements
began by satellite in 1979 and just a few days into the Southern
Hemisphere winter and 6 months ahead of the peak. Wilkins like all the
others that temporarily broke up will refreeze soon. We are very likely
going to exceed last year's record. Yet the world is left with the false
impression Antarctica's ice sheet is also starting to disappear."

Read the complete blog post and check out meteorologist Joseph D'Aleo
graphs at http://icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate
--

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

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3. Date: 2008-03-27 04:05:16
Subject: Re: 160 Sq. Mi. Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses!
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4. Date: 2008-03-27 04:43:53
Subject: Re: 160 Sq. Mi. Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses!
From: "V-for-Vendicar" <J...@E...com> Search message by this author

"00BNZ" <0...@d...com> wrote
> "Much of the continent is not warming and some parts are even
> cooling, Vaughan said. However, the western peninsula, which includes
> the Wilkins ice shelf, juts out into the ocean and is warming. "

Yup, but the south polar vortex won't keep the region cool for much
longer.

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5. Date: 2008-03-27 09:00:30
Subject: Re: 160 Sq. Mi. Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses!
From: "V-for-Vendicar" <J...@E...com> Search message by this author

"00BNZ" <0...@d...com> wrote
> "Attributing global climate change to human CO2 production is akin to
> trying to diagnose an automotive problem by ignoring the engine
> (analogous to the Sun in the climate system) and the transmission (water
> vapour) and instead focusing entirely, not on one nut on a rear wheel,
> which would be analogous to total CO2, but on one thread on that nut,
> which represents the human contribution." Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of
> the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP.com), Former Professor
> Of Climatology, University of Winnipeg

And once again you are caught lying. Timothy Ball isn't a former professor
of climatology, and the University of Winnipeg has no climatoloty program.
Ball is a former geography professor with no training in climatology who
couldn't make it as a university professor (pubishing a total of 4 papers in
his entire career), and then cashing in by jumping on the big oil Gravy
train.

You should ask Ball about the little incident concerning the
Misappropriattion of University Resources at the University of Calgary by
his propaganda group - Friends of Science..

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6. Date: 2008-04-07 12:32:23
Subject: Re: 160 Sq. Mi. Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses!
From: "V-for-Vendicar" <J...@E...com> Search message by this author

"00BNZ" <0...@d...com> wrote
> Posted by jennifer
> March 26, 2008
> http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/

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2007 A Top Ten Warm Year For U.S. And Globe

The preliminary annual average temperature for 2007 across the contiguous
United
States will likely be near 54.3° F- 1.5°F (0.8°C) above the twentieth
century
average of 52.8°F. This currently establishes 2007 as the eighth warmest on
record. Only February and April were cooler-than-average, while March and
August
were second warmest in the 113-year record.

The warmer-than-average conditions in 2007 influenced residential energy
demand
in opposing ways, as measured by the nation's Residential Energy Demand
Temperature Index. Using this index, NOAA scientists determined that the
U.S.
residential energy demand was about three percent less during the winter and
eight percent higher during the summer than what would have occurred under
average climate conditions.

Exceptional warmth in late March was followed by a record cold outbreak from
the
central Plains to the Southeast in early April. The combination of premature
growth from the March warmth and the record-breaking freeze behind it caused
more than an estimated $1 billion in losses to crops (agricultural and
horticultural).

A severe heat wave affected large parts of the central and southeastern U.S.
in
August, setting more than 2,500 new daily record highs.

Global Temperatures

The global annual temperature − for combined land and ocean surfaces -
for 2007
is expected to be near 58.0 F - and would be the fifth warmest since records
began in 1880. Some of the largest and most widespread warm anomalies
occurred
from eastern Europe to central Asia.

Including 2007, seven of the eight warmest years on record have occurred
since
2001 and the 10 warmest years have all occurred since 1997. The global
average
surface temperature has risen between 0.6°C and 0.7°C since the start of the
twentieth century, and the rate of increase since 1976 has been
approximately
three times faster than the century-scale trend.

The greatest warming has taken place in high latitude regions of the
Northern
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ice
extent since satellite records began in 1979, surpassing the previous record
low
set in 2005 by a remarkable 23 percent. According to the National Snow and
Ice
Data Center, this is part of a continuing trend in end-of-summer Arctic sea
ice
extent reductions of about 10 percent per decade since 1979.

U.S. Precipitation and Drought Highlights

Severe to exceptional drought affected the Southeast and western U.S. More
than
three-quarters of the Southeast was in drought from mid-summer into
December.
Increased evaporation from usually warm temperatures, combined with a lack
of
precipitation, worsened drought conditions. Drought conditions also affected
large parts of the Upper Midwest and areas of the Northeast.

Water conservation measures and drought disasters, or states of emergency,
were
declared by governors in at least five southeastern states, along with
California, Oregon, Maryland, Connecticut, and Delaware at some point during
the
year.

A series of storms brought flooding, millions of dollars in damages and loss
of
life from Texas to Kansas and Missouri in June and July. Making matters
worse
were the remnants of Tropical Storm Erin, which produced heavy rainfall in
the
same region in August.

Drought and unusual warmth contributed to another extremely active wildfire
season. Approximately nine million acres burned through early December, most
of
it in the contiguous U.S., according to preliminary estimates by the
National
Interagency Fire Center.

There were 15 named storms in the Atlantic Basin (Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean
Sea
and Gulf of Mexico) in 2007, four more than the long-term average. Six
storms
developed into hurricanes, including Hurricanes Dean and Felix, two category
5
storms that struck Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula and Nicaragua, respectively
(the
first two recorded category 5 landfalls in the Atlantic Basin in the same
year).
No major hurricanes made landfall in the U.S., but three tropical
depressions,
one tropical storm and one Category 1 Hurricane made landfall along the
Southeast and Gulf coasts.

La Niña conditions developed during the latter half of 2007, and by the end
of
November, sea surface temperatures near the equator of the eastern Pacific
were
more than 3.6°F (2°C) below average. This La Niña event is likely to
continue
into early 2008, according to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center.