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1. Date: 2008-03-28 04:45:13
Subject: Re: 160 Sq. Mi. Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses!
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> On Mar 27, 5:04 am, "V-for-Vendicar"
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>> On Mar 26, 11:20 pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
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>> > No we have photgraphs from ships and geographers from that period.
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>> > And we have sedement layers which have been studied that show when
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>> > region above was clear water, and we have the measured age of the
>> > ice on
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>> > shelf itself.
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>> > In other words, you are a...
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>> > "Cato" <c...@s...ca> wrote
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>> > > It's called change.... get used to it...
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>> > It's called treason, and you will hang for it.
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>> "Cato" <c...@s...ca> wrote
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>> > God VD... You're getting funnier and funnier....
>> > (laughing so hard I almost pissed myself) :
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>> Almost? Scat boy.
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>> Have you noticed - My Little Libertarian Dung Eater - the three new
>> sunspot groups on the surface of the sun.
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> Duh........ Scott... have you noticed that they are equator
> spots..... Huh???/ They didn't form in the higher or lower latitudes
> and move to the equator...... They formed there......
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> CYCLE 23 SPOTS still Vendicar!!!!!
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> Cite, please.


Up To 69% Of Global Warming Due To Solar Variability

Nicola Scafetta, Bruce J. West

Physics Today

March 2008





http://www.fel.duke.edu/~scafetta/pdf/opinion0308.pd
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QUOTE: "In particular, since 2002 the temperature

data present a global cooling, not a

warming! This cooling seems to have

been induced by decreased solar activity

from the 2001 maximum to the 2007

minimum as depicted in two distinct

TSI reconstructions."







Nicola Scafetta is a research associate in the Duke University physics
department. Bruce West is chief scientist in the mathematical and
information science directorate, US Army Research Office, in Research
Triangle Park, North Carolina.



The causes of global warming-the

increase of approximately 0.8±0.1 °C in

the average global temperature near

Earth's surface since 1900-are not as

apparent as some recent scientific publications

and the popular media indicate.

We contend that the changes in

Earth's average surface temperature are

directly linked to two distinctly different

aspects of the Sun's dynamics: the

short-term statistical fluctuations in the

Sun's irradiance and the longer-term

solar cycles. This argument for directly

linking the Sun's dynamics to the response

of Earth's climate is based on

our research and augments the interpretation

of the causes of global warming

presented in the United Nations

2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate

Change (IPCC) report.1

The most debated issue in contemporary

science is the cause or causes of

global warming, with the popular

media contending that the issue has

been resolved and that the majority of

scientists concur. The "majority opinion"

is based on the analysis of global

warming done using large-scale computer

codes that incorporate all identified

physical and chemical mechanisms

into global circulation models (GCMs)

in an attempt to recreate and understand

the variability in Earth's average

temperature. The IPCC report1 concludes

that the contribution of solar

variability to global warming is negligible,

to a certainty of 95%. It is reported

that the "majority" believes the average

warming observed since the beginning

of the industrial era is due to the increase

in anthropogenic greenhouse gas

concentrations in the atmosphere.



Modeling TSI variability

Earth's atmosphere, landmasses, and

oceans absorb and redistribute the total

solar irradiance (TSI) by means of coupled

nonlinear hydrothermal, geochemical,

and radiative dynamic processes

that produce Earth's globally averaged

temperature at a given time. Versions of

those physical mechanisms are included

in the GCMs, but what is not addressed

in the simulations are the statistics

of the time series. Those series

consist of the monthly values of temperature

anomalies. The statistical variability

in Earth's average temperature is

interpreted as noise; the temperature

fluctuations are thought to contain no

useful information and are consequently

smoothed to emphasize the

presumably more important long-time

changes in the average global temperature,

typically on the order of years. According

to the central limit theorem, the

statistics of the fluctuations in such

large-dimensional networks ought to be

Gaussian.2 The fact that they are not remains

unexplained. The non-Gaussian

behavior prompted us to study temperature

fluctuations as a problem in nonequilibrium

statistical physics wherein

statistical fluctuations often provide

useful information about the transport

properties of complex phenomena. An

example would be the fluctuation-

dissipation theorem, in which the response

of a network to a perturbation is

determined by the network's unperturbed

autocorrelation function.

The variations in TSI are indicative

of the Sun's turbulent dynamics, as evidenced

by changes in the number, duration,

and intensity of solar flares and

sunspots, and by the intermittency in

the time intervals between dark spots

and bright faculae. That time variation

in TSI induces similar changes in

Earth's average temperature and produces

trends that move the global temperature

up and down for tens or even

hundreds of years. Our conclusions depart

from those of the GCM simulations.

We maintain that the variations in

Earth's temperature are not noise, but

contain substantial information about

the source of variability, in particular

the variations in TSI. Establishing this

direct connection between the complex

dynamics of the Sun and Earth requires

a new kind of linking-one associated

with the transfer of information between

complex networks, even when

the linking is extremely weak, as it is in

the Sun-Earth network.

We showed that the stochastic properties

of the average global temperature

are linked to the statistics of TSI.2 It is the

linking of the complexity of Earth to the

complexity of the Sun that forces Earth's

temperature anomalies to adopt the TSI

statistics. Consequently, both the fluctuations

in TSI, using the solar flare time

series as a surrogate, and Earth's average

temperature time series are observed

to have inverse power-law statistical

distributions. Specifically, if t is

the time between events, where an event

is a solar flare or a fluctuation in Earth's

temperature, the distribution of time intervals

between events P(t) is an inverse

power law; that is, P(t) ? A/t?, where A

is a normalization constant. The inverse

power-law index ? turns out to be the

same for both the solar flare and temperature

anomaly time series, even

though the cross-correlation of the two

vanishes except at the lowest frequencies,

where quasi-periodic solar cycles

dominate the dynamics.

The scaling of the statistical distribution

of the TSI time series was tested by

randomly changing the order of the data

points. If the time series were internally

correlated, the resulting distribution

would have changed from the original,

but that did not happen. The invariance

of the distribution under shuffling indicates

that the statistics of the time series

is non-Poisson and renewal-meaning

that with the generation of each new

event, the process is renewed. The same

was determined to be true of the global

temperature time series.



Complexity matching

The statistics of solar flares, which we

used as a surrogate for the fluctuations

in TSI, are described by a non-Gaussian

distribution. The behavior of such limit

distributions requires a generalization

of the central limit theorem to the case

in which the second moment of the variate

diverges. Such processes were studied

by Paul Lévy before World War II,

www.physicstoday.org March 2008 Physics Today 51

and now bear his name. The solar flare

statistics were shown to be describable

by such a Lévy distribution and we assumed

that intermittent solar flares perturb

the intrinsic fluctuations in Earth's

average temperature. The end result of

this perturbation is that the statistics of

the temperature anomalies inherit the

statistical structure that was evident in

the intermittency of the solar flare data.2

The inverse power-law index ? for solar

flares was determined to be 2.14,

whereas ? for the air temperature was

2.11 globally, 2.20 for the Northern

Hemisphere, 2.09 for the Southern

Hemisphere, 2.21 over land, and 2.06

over the ocean. The near equivalence in

indices occurs because of a newly identified

phenomenon, the complexitymatching

effect,3 described below, and

suggests the presence of a subtle but

persistent solar signature in climate

fluctuations on short time scales. Note

that this climate response to complexity

is separate and distinct from the response

to solar cycles.

Thus, the Sun's influence on Earth's

temperature is subtle because it is not

just an energy transport process but

also an information transfer. According

to linear response theory in statistical

physics, a network S responds to a perturbation

P by means of a linear transfer

equation, whose kernel, the response

function, is determined by the

fluctuation-dissipation theorem given

that the perturbation is sufficiently

weak. When S and P are non-Poisson

renewal processes, the response of S is

maximal when the complexity of the

two networks, as measured by the inverse

power-law indices, is matched.3

For the Sun-Earth one-way linking, S is

the Earth and P is the Sun. The

complexity-matching effect in the

Sun-Earth network is evident in the

equality of the inverse power-law

indices.



Solar cycles

Incorporating the influence of solar cycles

into this thermodynamically closed

climate modeling strategy reveals coordinated

variability over even longer

time scales. Recent heuristic studies indicate

that the climate time response

parameter ?, analogous to the Onsager

relaxation time in statistical physics,

might be 5-10 years.4,5 By using a climate

time response ? of 7.5 years and

the phenomenological 0.1 °C amplitude

of the 11-year solar cycle (see reference

1, page 674, for details) as constraints on

a simple two-parameter model in the

tradition of the earliest climate models,

we recently showed that it is possible to

reconstruct a phenomenological solar

signature (PSS) of climate for the last

four centuries.5 In the figure, the interval

from 1950 to 2010 is displayed with

two such PSS reconstructions derived

from two alternative TSI inputs. The

figure shows excellent agreement between

the 11-year PSS cycles and the cycles

observed in the smoothed average

global temperature data; a 22-year cycle

component in the temperature also

matches the 22-year PSS cycle very well.

In particular, since 2002 the temperature

data present a global cooling, not a

warming! This cooling seems to have

been induced by decreased solar activity

from the 2001 maximum to the 2007

minimum as depicted in two distinct

TSI reconstructions.

Thus the average global temperature

record presents secular patterns of 22-

and 11-year cycles and a short timescale

fluctuation signature (with apparent

inverse power-law statistics), both

of which appear to be induced by solar

dynamics. The same patterns are poorly

reproduced by present-day GCMs and

are dismissively interpreted as internal

variability (noise) of climate. The nonequilibrium

thermodynamic models

we used suggest that the Sun is influencing

climate significantly more than

the IPCC report claims. If climate is as

sensitive to solar changes as the above

phenomenological findings suggest,

the current anthropogenic contribution

to global warming is significantly overestimated.

We estimate that the Sun

could account for as much as 69% of the

increase in Earth's average temperature,

depending on the TSI reconstruction

used.5 Furthermore, if the Sun does

cool off, as some solar forecasts predict

will happen over the next few decades,

that cooling could stabilize Earth's climate

and avoid the catastrophic consequences

predicted in the IPCC report.

The authors thank the Army Research Office

for research support and for grant W911NF-

06-1-0323.

References

1. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate

Change, Climate Change 2007: The Physical

Science Basis, Cambridge U. Press, New

York (2007). Available at http://ipccwg1.

ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html.

2. N. Scafetta, B. J. West, Phys. Rev. Lett. 90,

248701 (2003).

3. P. Allegrini, M. Bologna, P. Grigolini, B. J.

West, Phys. Rev. Lett. 99, 010603 (2007); G.

Aquino, P. Grigolini, B. J. West, Europhys.

Lett. 80, 10002 (2007).

4. S. E. Schwartz, J. Geophs. Res. 112, D24S05

(2007).

5. N. Scafetta, B. J. West, J. Geophys. Res. 112,

D24S03 (2007).



www.physicstoday.org
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Warmest Regards

Bonzo


The Fourth Report of the IPCC might just as well decree the
suppression of all climatology textbooks, and replace them in our
schools with press communiqués. ... Day after day, the same mantra -
that 'the Earth is warming up' - is churned out in all its forms. As
'the
ice melts' and 'sea level rises' the Apocalypse looms ever nearer!
Without realizing it, or perhaps without wishing to, the average
citizen in bamboozled, lobotomized, and lulled into mindless acceptance.
... Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the
position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God ...
Marcel Leroux

It should be abundantly clear by now that the AGW hypothesis is
contradicted by the facts/measurements/observations and should
therefore be abandoned and be substituted by a hypothesis which
better matches the facts.
- Hans Labohm


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Subject: Re: 160 Sq. Mi. Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses!
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Ahahahahaha... An OPINION piece that couldn't stand up to peer review.

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