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On Nov 9, 3:31 pm, c...@w...net wrote:
> i wonder what is going to happen ext ?
I think what happens next is you go to the looney bin!
Obama's mother was US Citizen, born in Kansas.
Therefore, Obama is automatically a US citizen too.
So says the U.S. State Department:
http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html
. . ."Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother: A child
born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S.
citizenship under Section 301(g) INA, as made applicable by Section
309(c) INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child's
birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the
United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous
period of one year."
> DISOBEY!
mmm. . . civil disobedience?
Like what, for example?
What act of civil disobedience do you most advocate, Comix?
Don't hold back: tell us what you'd really like to see happen to
Obama.
. . .
From: "HLS" <n...@n...nix>
>Come on George...you probably dont even have a bith certificate yourself.
>;>)
Actually, I have 3.
Let's see if you can figure that out. :)
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From: Doobie Keebler <k...@g...com>
>Obama's mother was US Citizen, born in Kansas.
>Therefore, Obama is automatically a US citizen too.
But that does not, in and of itself, make Obama eligible to
be president.
"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,
at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the
Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office
who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been
fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
You're an idiot.
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On Nov 9, 9:55 pm, George Orwell <n...@m...it> wrote:
> You're an idiot.
Sorry, but you are wrong.
If Obamas' mother is a natural born US Citizen, so is Obama.
This is a red herring issue, perpetrated by . . . idiots.
On Nov 9, 9:32 am, Doobie Keebler <k...@g...com> wrote:
> On Nov 9, 1:57 am, PeterL <p...@g...com> wrote:
> > I so know for certain that McCain was not born in the US.
> McCain was born of two American citizens at Coco Solo Naval Air
> Station in Panama.
Not true. He was born in Colon, Panama.
> He's a native born American. Same as Obama.
Panamanians are Americans, but that doesn't make them native born
citizens of the USA.
--
Ron
From: Doobie Keebler <k...@g...com>
>If Obamas' mother is a natural born US Citizen, so is Obama
Wrong again, Dipshit.
Allow me to correct your statement..............
If Obamas' mother is a natural born US Citizen, Obama MAY BE a
natural born US citizen.
And I haven't even seen proof that the woman claiming to be
his mother, is actually his mother.
Why not just produce the documents required to support the claim
and make the whole issue go away.?
"What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson -
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"Doobie Keebler" <k...@g...com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 9, 3:31 pm, c...@w...net wrote:
>> i wonder what is going to happen ext ?
>
>
> I think what happens next is you go to the looney bin!
>
> Obama's mother was US Citizen, born in Kansas.
> Therefore, Obama is automatically a US citizen too.
>
> So says the U.S. State Department:
> http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html
>
> . . ."Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother: A child
> born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S.
> citizenship under Section 301(g) INA, as made applicable by Section
> 309(c) INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child's
> birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the
> United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous
> period of one year."
That's the law as it reads today. According to the law at that time, a
parent could pass US citizenship on to a child born abroad if the parent was
at least 19 years old. Obama's mother was only 18. Therefore citizenship
would not have passed onto Obama if he were actually born in Kenya. No
hospital birth certificate has been produced to prove Obama was born in
Hawaii, only a certificate of birth registry after the fact, which some
forensics experts have denounced as a forgery.
On Nov 10, 1:59 am, George Orwell <n...@m...it> wrote:
> And I haven't even seen proof that the woman claiming to be
> his mother, is actually his mother.
HEY! Draggonfodder!
Meet George, another candidate for your ODS* therapy group.
George, George, George . . . how can you bear the existential pain of
living each moment shipwrecked upon the "reef of solipsism" ?
You're struggling with the 'reality' of the existence of The Other:
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~uctyseg/sartre.pdf
(pages 7-8)
Beware, George: it is impossible (in that frame of reference) to have
certainty of <i>anything.</i>
Madness lurks there.
One might even begin to question the reality of one's own existence.
Are you 'real', George?
How can you be certain?
Perhaps you are actually a Russian sleeper agent, inserted as a young
man into mainstream America.
It could be that your 'real' name is Dalchimsky. How do you know your
birth certificate is 'real'.
When the telefon rings, will you answer it?
Listen carefully George:
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep . . ."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076804/plotsummary
.-=d00b
.
(*ODS = Obama Derangement Syndrome)
Under Hawaiian state law (Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-18), copies of
vital records may only be released to those who have a tangible
relationship to the person whose record is being sought. Neither the
Governor's office, nor any other office in the State of Hawaii, can
provide information concerning birth certificates, or produce birth
certificates, to anyone except those who are listed in the law governing
vital statistics records.
Vital statistics records, such as birth certificates, are protected by
strict confidentiality requirements. Specifically, pursuant to
section 338-18, Hawaii Revised Statutes (HRS), the Department of Health,
which maintains these records, may not allow the inspection of a birth
certificate, or issue a certified copy of a birth certificate, or
disclose any information contained in a birth certificate, unless it is
satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the
record:
(a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure
their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration
of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to
permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital
statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any
such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by
the department of health.
(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health
statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part
thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and
tangible interest in the record.
The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible
interest in a public health statistics record:
(1) The registrant;
(2) The spouse of the registrant;
(3) A parent of the registrant;
(4) A descendant of the registrant;
(5) A person having a common ancestor with the registrant;
(6) A legal guardian of the registrant;
(7) A person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;
(8) A personal representative of the registrant's estate;
(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the
record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
(10) Adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and who
need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted
child's natural or legal parents;
(11) A person who needs to determine the marital status of a former
spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;
(12) A person who needs to determine the death of a non-related
co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and
(13) A person who needs a death certificate for the determination of
payments under a credit insurance policy.
You can find the complete statute at
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch032
1-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm
Rich. wrote:
>
> "Doobie Keebler" <k...@g...com> wrote in message
> news:2ab5edfb-f860-4baa-8f53-989cea0707b3@a17g2000pr
m.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 9, 3:31 pm, c...@w...net wrote:
>>> i wonder what is going to happen ext ?
>>
>>
>> I think what happens next is you go to the looney bin!
>>
>> Obama's mother was US Citizen, born in Kansas.
>> Therefore, Obama is automatically a US citizen too.
>>
>> So says the U.S. State Department:
>> http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html
>>
>> . . ."Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother: A child
>> born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S.
>> citizenship under Section 301(g) INA, as made applicable by Section
>> 309(c) INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child's
>> birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the
>> United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous
>> period of one year."
>
>
> That's the law as it reads today. According to the law at that time, a
> parent could pass US citizenship on to a child born abroad if the parent
> was at least 19 years old. Obama's mother was only 18. Therefore
> citizenship would not have passed onto Obama if he were actually born in
> Kenya. No hospital birth certificate has been produced to prove Obama
> was born in Hawaii, only a certificate of birth registry after the fact,
>
>>>>which some forensics experts have denounced as a forgery<<<
None worth listening too.
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