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"Roger Coppock" <r...@a...com> wrote in message
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> Two posts, each confusing weather and climate
> both in less that an hour. Bonzo, is winning at
> intellectual limbo. How low IQ can he go? How
> low can he go? How low . . .
>
> See Bonzo's posts titled,
> "Yet Another Failed Climate Forecast!!" and
> "Climate Models Wrong Yet Again, This Is Becoming Very Repetitive!!!"
>
> Of all the pseudo-science that fossil fools spout,
> their claims about climate models are the most
> ill-informed. Not a one of them have ever used
> a climate model, though they are freely available
> to the public.
>
> Should you want to cut through the fossil fool
> lies to find out what climate models really do, one
> is available here:
>
> http://edgcm.columbia.edu/
ROTFLMAO
The Sorry History Of Climate Model Predictions
16 Sep 2008
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting realistic results."
The computer models upon which the UN's climate panel unwisely founds its
entire case have failed and failed and failed again to predict major events
in the real climate.
a. The models have not projected the current multidecadal stasis in "global
warming":
b. no rise in temperatures since 1998; falling temperatures since late 2001;
temperatures not expected to set a new record until 2015 (Keenlyside et al.,
2008).
c. nor (until trained ex post facto) did they predict the fall in TS from
1940-1975;
d. nor 50 years' cooling in Antarctica (Doran et al., 2002) and the Arctic
(Soon, 2005);
e. nor the absence of ocean warming since 2003 (Lyman et al., 2006;
Gouretski & Koltermann, 2007);
f. nor the behavior of the great ocean oscillations (Lindzen, 2007),
g. nor the magnitude nor duration of multi-century events such as the
Mediaeval Warm Period or the Little Ice Age;
h. nor the decline since 2000 in atmospheric methane concentration (IPCC,
2007);
i. nor the active 2004 hurricane season;
j. nor the inactive subsequent seasons;
k. nor the UK flooding of 2007 (the Met Office had forecast a summer of
prolonged droughts only six weeks previously);
l. nor the solar Grand Maximum of the past 70 years, during which the Sun
was more active, for longer, than at almost any similar period in the past
11,400 years (Hathaway, 2004; Solanki et al., 2005);
m. nor the consequent surface "global warming" on Mars, Jupiter, Neptune's
largest moon, and even distant Pluto;
n. nor the eerily-continuing 2006 solar minimum;
o. nor the consequent, precipitate decline of ~0.8 °C in surface temperature
from January 2007 to May 2008 that has canceled out almost all of the
observed warming of the 20th century.
http://co2sceptics.com/news.php?id=1803
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
On Nov 23, 5:10 pm, "bnzoo" <b...@...com> wrote:
> "Roger Coppock" <r...@a...com> wrote in message
>
> news:66031b56-18c6-4027-8af7-af91132a6efd@r40g2000yq
j.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Two posts, each confusing weather and climate
> > both in less that an hour. Bonzo, is winning at
> > intellectual limbo. How low IQ can he go? How
> > low can he go? How low . . .
>
> > See Bonzo's posts titled,
> > "Yet Another Failed Climate Forecast!!" and
> > "Climate Models Wrong Yet Again, This Is Becoming Very Repetitive!!!"
>
> > Of all the pseudo-science that fossil fools spout,
> > their claims about climate models are the most
> > ill-informed. Not a one of them have ever used
> > a climate model, though they are freely available
> > to the public.
>
> > Should you want to cut through the fossil fool
> > lies to find out what climate models really do, one
> > is available here:
>
> >http://edgcm.columbia.edu/
>
> ROTFLMAO
>
> The Sorry History Of Climate Model Predictions
>
> 16 Sep 2008
>
> "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
> expecting realistic results."
>
> The computer models upon which the UN's climate panel unwisely founds its
> entire case have failed and failed and failed again to predict major events
> in the real climate.
>
> a. The models have not projected the current multidecadal stasis in "global
> warming":
>
> b. no rise in temperatures since 1998; falling temperatures since late 2001;
> temperatures not expected to set a new record until 2015 (Keenlyside et al.,
> 2008).
>
> c. nor (until trained ex post facto) did they predict the fall in TS from
> 1940-1975;
>
> d. nor 50 years' cooling in Antarctica (Doran et al., 2002) and the Arctic
> (Soon, 2005);
>
> e. nor the absence of ocean warming since 2003 (Lyman et al., 2006;
> Gouretski & Koltermann, 2007);
>
> f. nor the behavior of the great ocean oscillations (Lindzen, 2007),
>
> g. nor the magnitude nor duration of multi-century events such as the
> Mediaeval Warm Period or the Little Ice Age;
>
> h. nor the decline since 2000 in atmospheric methane concentration (IPCC,
> 2007);
>
> i. nor the active 2004 hurricane season;
>
> j. nor the inactive subsequent seasons;
>
> k. nor the UK flooding of 2007 (the Met Office had forecast a summer of
> prolonged droughts only six weeks previously);
>
> l. nor the solar Grand Maximum of the past 70 years, during which the Sun
> was more active, for longer, than at almost any similar period in the past
> 11,400 years (Hathaway, 2004; Solanki et al., 2005);
>
> m. nor the consequent surface "global warming" on Mars, Jupiter, Neptune's
> largest moon, and even distant Pluto;
>
> n. nor the eerily-continuing 2006 solar minimum;
>
> o. nor the consequent, precipitate decline of ~0.8 °C in surface temperature
> from January 2007 to May 2008 that has canceled out almost all of the
> observed warming of the 20th century.
>
> http://co2sceptics.com/news.php?id=1803
>
> Warmest Regards
>
> Bonzo- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Actually the definition of insanity is trying to communicate the truth
to some idiot like you and expecting you to buy it
<t...@g...com> wrote in message
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On Nov 23, 5:10 pm, "bnzoo" <b...@...com> wrote:
> "Roger Coppock" <r...@a...com> wrote in message
>
> news:66031b56-18c6-4027-8af7-af91132a6efd@r40g2000yq
j.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Two posts, each confusing weather and climate
> > both in less that an hour. Bonzo, is winning at
> > intellectual limbo. How low IQ can he go? How
> > low can he go? How low . . .
>
> > See Bonzo's posts titled,
> > "Yet Another Failed Climate Forecast!!" and
> > "Climate Models Wrong Yet Again, This Is Becoming Very Repetitive!!!"
>
> > Of all the pseudo-science that fossil fools spout,
> > their claims about climate models are the most
> > ill-informed. Not a one of them have ever used
> > a climate model, though they are freely available
> > to the public.
>
> > Should you want to cut through the fossil fool
> > lies to find out what climate models really do, one
> > is available here:
>
> >http://edgcm.columbia.edu/
>
> ROTFLMAO
>
> The Sorry History Of Climate Model Predictions
>
> 16 Sep 2008
>
> "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
> expecting realistic results."
>
> The computer models upon which the UN's climate panel unwisely founds its
> entire case have failed and failed and failed again to predict major
> events
> in the real climate.
>
> a. The models have not projected the current multidecadal stasis in
> "global
> warming":
>
> b. no rise in temperatures since 1998; falling temperatures since late
> 2001;
> temperatures not expected to set a new record until 2015 (Keenlyside et
> al.,
> 2008).
>
> c. nor (until trained ex post facto) did they predict the fall in TS from
> 1940-1975;
>
> d. nor 50 years' cooling in Antarctica (Doran et al., 2002) and the Arctic
> (Soon, 2005);
>
> e. nor the absence of ocean warming since 2003 (Lyman et al., 2006;
> Gouretski & Koltermann, 2007);
>
> f. nor the behavior of the great ocean oscillations (Lindzen, 2007),
>
> g. nor the magnitude nor duration of multi-century events such as the
> Mediaeval Warm Period or the Little Ice Age;
>
> h. nor the decline since 2000 in atmospheric methane concentration (IPCC,
> 2007);
>
> i. nor the active 2004 hurricane season;
>
> j. nor the inactive subsequent seasons;
>
> k. nor the UK flooding of 2007 (the Met Office had forecast a summer of
> prolonged droughts only six weeks previously);
>
> l. nor the solar Grand Maximum of the past 70 years, during which the Sun
> was more active, for longer, than at almost any similar period in the past
> 11,400 years (Hathaway, 2004; Solanki et al., 2005);
>
> m. nor the consequent surface "global warming" on Mars, Jupiter, Neptune's
> largest moon, and even distant Pluto;
>
> n. nor the eerily-continuing 2006 solar minimum;
>
> o. nor the consequent, precipitate decline of ~0.8 °C in surface
> temperature
> from January 2007 to May 2008 that has canceled out almost all of the
> observed warming of the 20th century.
>
> http://co2sceptics.com/news.php?id=1803
>
> Warmest Regards
>
> Bonzo- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Actually the definition of insanity is trying to communicate the truth
to some idiot like you and expecting you to buy it
*************************************************
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves,
but wiser people so full of doubts" Bertrand Russell
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"bnzoo" <b...@...com> wrote in message news:4929ff0b$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> http://SMOKINGsceptics.com/news.php?id=1803
What does smoking&cancer skeptics have to do with anything Bonzo?
Here come the executions.
November 25, 2008
Bloodshed and Death is coming to American Businessmen
In my 46 years on this Earth, I have never had to write such a frightening
Op-Ed piece as this. Sadly, the state of affairs inside the US and its
business community is such that remaining silent is no longer an option.
Put bluntly, bloodshed and death is coming. Brutal, violent, merciless.
Perpetrated with malice aforethought. If I am right, many of you business
folks - especially the folks at the top - are going to be the ones doing the
bleeding and the dying.
How we got to this point is simple. How we stop it from happening is not so
simple; but there is still a small window of opportunity which may help
avert
this.
It began with NAFTA and GATT. The whole "free trade" movement was
sales-pitched to us common folk as a way to break down trade barriers so
American products could be sold overseas with greater ease and
competitiveness. The pitch told us that it would help American companies and
increase American jobs. That sales pitch was a deliberate lie.
What was really afoot was a way for American corporations to significantly
reduce their manufacturing costs by opening state-of-the-art facilities in
third world countries, hiring third-world workers at pittance pay with no
benefits, while maintaining sales prices. This allowed you folks to pocket
huge additional profits.
Next, you corporate folks decided to jump on the "Diversity" bandwagon,
Diversity replaced merit. Corporate productivity slid but no one could dare
step up to say why for fear of being fired as a racist.
Diversity became and end unto itself and ultimately it was the straight,
white
male who suffered most. Straight white males were intentionally passed-over
for jobs and promotions. When "downsizing" took place, it was the straight,
white male cut loose so "diversity" could be maintained.
The last straw - and by far the worst betrayal - was the intentional use of
illegal aliens and the intentional importation of foreign, cheap labor under
the H1-B Visa system. Companies even went so far as to send their Human
Resources people to seminars offered by law firms so they could learn
precisely how to disqualify Americans for available jobs, in favor of
importing foreigners!
Well, ladies and gentlemen of the business community, the chickens have now
come home to roost.
Vast numbers of unemployed Americans, unable to pay their mortgages after
losing jobs, began defaulting, causing foreclosures to rise.
Vast numbers of illegal aliens who were also given mortgages (by banks who
feared being labeled racists if they declined to lend), defaulted on their
mortgages too. This caused even more foreclosures.
As foreclosures grew, they affected the value of nearby homes whose owners
suddenly found out they owed more than their homes were worth! When their
mortgage companies demanded large, lump sum payments to pay down the excess
mortgage, those folks could not pay and. . . . were foreclosed upon.
Long story short, these foreclosures caused the banking system to contract,
which caused the credit markets to dry up, which caused everything else to
go
in the crapper. That's where we are today.
Where we're heading is unlike anything you can imagine.
Unlike the great depression of the 1930's, people today are quite well
educated. We know exactly how this trouble happened and exactly who is to
blame: YOU. The corporate hot shots who put profit over country; who put
greed
above loyalty and who cared not one wit about who was displaced, who was
harmed, or who got shafted.
Unlike the great depression, people today have lost a lot more than just
their
jobs and homes. They've lost their retirement nest eggs, their children's
college funds and worst of all, any chance at a better future. Therein lies
a
recipe for violence;. and folks, violence is coming - right at you.
You see, folks of today understand that allowing the great depression of the
1930's to take place without retribution against those who caused it, set
the
stage for this latest financial screw job.
As any parent can tell you, when being nice over bad behavior fails to stop
such behavior, one must resort to punishing bad behavior to prevent future
bad
acts.
Punishment for what you have done is your due and folks out here in the real
world are preparing to deliver it - right to your physical person on the
doorstep of your offices and homes.
Thanks to the internet, we know who the CEO's and CFO's of all your
companies
are. We know who is on every Board of Directors. Thanks to information
services like Intellius.com, we also know where all of you live. ALL of you.
Americans who have lost everything, have no reservation whatsoever about
coming after you to inflict violence for wrecking their lives and our
nation.
In fact, I personally know of a "movement" of several groups actively
recruiting the destitute from make-shift homeless centers, with the
intention
of organizing criminal violence against you. Groups like the Ku Klux Klan,
Aryan Nations, Nazis and White racist skinheads are seeing staggering growth
in membership. I know. I've seen it with my own eyes. And you know what? I
agree with "the movement" because I think what you've done stinks.
I will proudly stand with those groups when the time comes.
These groups are folks, right here in America, who have nothing left. They
have lost everything, including all hope. They do not fear the police, jail
or
death. They certainly don't fear you.
More interesting, many of the people now facing utter destitution are US
military veterans and they are helping the aforementioned groups prepare for
what's coming. Through their contacts in the military, veterans in the
groups
mentioned above have gained access to automatic weapons, armor piercing
ammunition, grenades, C4 plastic explosives, anti-personnel mines,
rocket-propelled grenades and more!
I personally know one former US Army Combat Engineer in the National
Alliance.
I can't even begin to describe how helpful he has been to "the movement."
If you want an example of how frighteningly effective this movement has
become, I can tell you for an absolute fact that the US Secret Service had
to
emergency-deploy eight (8) sniper teams around Grant Park in Chicago, IL on
election night because a member of "the movement" was reportedly headed down
there with military Mortars to attack and kill Barack Obama and his
supporters! That's how bold, how brazen, how incredibly dangerous things are
getting!
What good will the police or your corporate security forces be against these
types of dedicated and committed, angry people? What good are the "safe
rooms"
you've built in your homes or office buildings when C4 and RPG's can blow
right through them?
Last year, a listener to my talk radio show who is a gunsmith, thought I
might
like having an illegal silencer for my gun. He built one and shipped it to
me!
I have pictures to prove it!
Was it illegal? Yes. Did he care? No. Did I care? I won't say.
You have no idea how bad things are getting out here in real America. Trust
me, if you don't do something now to step up and help the average people of
this country, by the time you find out exactly how bad things are, it will
be
too late for you.
So I think you corporate folks would do well to seriously reconsider your
actions over the past
15 - 20 years and decide whether you're going to help America or continue
lining your own pockets? Are you going to bring the jobs back to America or
continue using third world labor as your country collapses? Are you going to
stop this bad behavior or are you going to have to be punished?
If you need help deciding, just ask yourself this: What good is all your
wealth if an uprising of angry white males leaves you too dead to spend it?
Oh, and if you think an uprising can't happen here, think again.
The bullet-resistant vests worn by police and your corporate security do not
protect them from the paralyzing effects of a Tazer. Once the cops and
security people are neutralized, your guns and those of the angry white
males
can do their thing. Since there are more of us than you, we win.
There's a fight coming. The cops can't stop it. The lawyers can't stop it.
The
courts can't stop it. The military is spread too thin around the world to be
of any consequence and the government is too broke to fund any more homeland
security.
But this fight doesn't have to happen. It can be avoided with a little
national loyalty and a little compassion.
Get your Board of Directors together and ask what your company can do to
help
America for the next 24 months? Talk to your stockholders and ask their
permission to cut dividends by half for the sole purpose of hiring more
AMERICANS to jobs here in America.
Go on TV and tell the public what you're doing to make things better HERE,
at
home! You can recover from the horrid reputation you've gotten, and help
resolve the horrid situation you have created if you'll only take some time
to
do the right things for the COUNTRY. A little corporate sacrifice will go a
long way to help a lot of us little people. The gratitude and admiration it
will generate will be priceless.
Of course, you are free to continue being impressed with yourselves as
masters
of the universe and keep right on doing what you've been doing. If that is
your intention, then know now:
The jig is up. Either get right with white males and America, or get your
affairs in order.
Hal Turner
"bnzoo" <b...@...com> wrote
> Actually the definition of insanity is trying to communicate the truth
> to some idiot like you and expecting you to buy it
Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.
View with mono spaced font.
1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o********
*****
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o*****
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*****
****
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o****
***
2004 14.49 ************************************************o**
2005 14.62 *************************************************o**
********
2006 14.54 **************************************************o*
***
2007 14.56 ***************************************************o
*****
-------------------------------------------> Temperature
Correlation Coefficient .8529209
Source NASAS ->
http://data.giss.nasa.gov:80/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.T
s+dSST.txt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs
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