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(see quoted material below)
Its going to be very bad but wait till after Jan 1, 2009, to get the whole
picture.
The bailout money is beyond my comprehension. Recent WSJ article listed
and it was many many trillions of dollars. There must have been at least a
dozen bailout "projects" all with their own abreviation (like TARPS), and
I may or may not go dig up the article and list it.
I have the suspicion that the bailout money is mostly going to end up in
the pockets of the rich and there will be many millions more unemployed in
a few months, and who knows for how long.
All due to the crooks.
And, there is all the trouble in the rest of the world, too.
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Sushi Fish wrote:
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:16:36 -0800 (PST)
> From: Sushi Fish <y...@y...com>
> Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants, sci.econ, alt.politics.economics
> Subject: Re: (Business Week) The crooks already stealing the bailout money..
>
> On Nov 24, 3:26 pm, Stray Dog <s...@s...lonestar.org> wrote:
>> Business Week, Dec 1, 2008 cover article "The Subprime Wolves are
>> back--and they are feeding off the bailout"
>>
>> page 36: subtitle: "the new game is FHA-backed loand and it could cost
>> taxpayers billions more"
>>
>> plus six pages of text, figures, and sidebars.
>>
>> So, bountiful moneyharvest for the few rich, the majority of the rest of
>> us get the depression.
>
>
> there is an article that FED plans to use 7 trillions to bail out the
> economy - today is holiday, but just in case it helps below from an
> email I received.
>
> -----
>
> Watch those store money cards and gift cards and credit slips!
>
> These are the stores that have informed the Security Exchange of
> closing plans between October 2008 and January 2009 (due to the
> "recession" and/or the fact that people are not shopping). If you
> have any "gift cards" from these stores, make sure you use them, or
> you will lose them!
>
> 1. Circuit City stores... closing all stores
>
> 2. Macys to close 9 stores after January
>
> 3. Ann Taylor- 117 stores nationwide are to be shuttered
>
> 4. Lane Bryant, Fashion Bug and Catherine's to close 150 store
> nationwide
>
> 5. Eddie Bauer to close stores 27 stores and more after January
>
> 6. Cache will close all stores
>
> 7. Talbots closing down all stores
>
> 8. J. Jill closing all stores
>
> 9. GAP closing 85 stores
>
> 10. Footlocker closing 140 stores more to close after January
>
> 11. Wickes Furniture closing down
>
> 12. Levitz closing down remaining stores
>
> 13. Bombay closing remaining stores
>
> 14. Zales closing down 82 stores and 105 after January
>
> 15. Whitehall closing all stores
>
> 16. Piercing Pagoda closing all stores
>
> 17. Disney closing 98 stores and will close more after January
>
> 18. Home Depot closing 15 stores
>
> 19. Linens and Things closing all stores
>
> 20. Movie Galley Closing all stores
>
> 21. Pacific Sunware closing stores
>
> 22. Pep Boys Closing 33 stores
>
> 23. Sprint/ Nextel closing 133 stores
>
> 24. JC Penney closing a number of stores after January
>
> 25. Ethan Allen closing down 12 stores
>
> 26. Wilson Leather closing down all stores
>
> 27. Sharper Image closing down all stores
>
> 28. K B Toys closing 356 stores
>
> 29. Lowes to close down some stores
>
> 30. Dillard's to close some stores
>
>
Stray Dog <s...@s...lonestar.org> wrote:
> (see quoted material below)
> Its going to be very bad but wait till after Jan 1, 2009, to get the whole picture.
>
> The bailout money is beyond my comprehension. Recent WSJ article
> listed and it was many many trillions of dollars. There must have
> been at least a dozen bailout "projects" all with their own abreviation (like
TARPS), and I may or may not go dig up
> the article and list it.
> I have the suspicion that the bailout money is mostly going to end up in the
pockets of the rich
Thats just your blind prejudice/mindless bigotry talking.
> and there will be many millions more unemployed in a few months,
Thats what the bailouts are attempting to avoid.
> and who knows for how long.
And lots of fools like you in mindless headless chicken mode,
mindlessly producing that result by slashing their spending,
even tho they cant lose their jobs because they have retired.
> All due to the crooks.
Yeah, yeah, its those damned jews conspiring in smoke filled rooms to shaft us all.
> And, there is all the trouble in the rest of the world, too.
Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it, hysteric.
> ////////////
>
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Sushi Fish wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:16:36 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Sushi Fish <y...@y...com>
>> Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants, sci.econ,
>> alt.politics.economics Subject: Re: (Business Week) The crooks
>> already stealing the bailout money.. On Nov 24, 3:26 pm, Stray Dog
<s...@s...lonestar.org> wrote:
>>> Business Week, Dec 1, 2008 cover article "The Subprime Wolves are
>>> back--and they are feeding off the bailout"
>>>
>>> page 36: subtitle: "the new game is FHA-backed loand and it could
>>> cost taxpayers billions more"
>>>
>>> plus six pages of text, figures, and sidebars.
>>>
>>> So, bountiful moneyharvest for the few rich, the majority of the
>>> rest of us get the depression.
>>
>>
>> there is an article that FED plans to use 7 trillions to bail out the
>> economy - today is holiday, but just in case it helps below from an
>> email I received.
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Watch those store money cards and gift cards and credit slips!
>>
>> These are the stores that have informed the Security Exchange of
>> closing plans between October 2008 and January 2009 (due to the
>> "recession" and/or the fact that people are not shopping). If you
>> have any "gift cards" from these stores, make sure you use them, or
>> you will lose them!
>>
>> 1. Circuit City stores... closing all stores
>>
>> 2. Macys to close 9 stores after January
>>
>> 3. Ann Taylor- 117 stores nationwide are to be shuttered
>>
>> 4. Lane Bryant, Fashion Bug and Catherine's to close 150 store
>> nationwide
>>
>> 5. Eddie Bauer to close stores 27 stores and more after January
>>
>> 6. Cache will close all stores
>>
>> 7. Talbots closing down all stores
>>
>> 8. J. Jill closing all stores
>>
>> 9. GAP closing 85 stores
>>
>> 10. Footlocker closing 140 stores more to close after January
>>
>> 11. Wickes Furniture closing down
>>
>> 12. Levitz closing down remaining stores
>>
>> 13. Bombay closing remaining stores
>>
>> 14. Zales closing down 82 stores and 105 after January
>>
>> 15. Whitehall closing all stores
>>
>> 16. Piercing Pagoda closing all stores
>>
>> 17. Disney closing 98 stores and will close more after January
>>
>> 18. Home Depot closing 15 stores
>>
>> 19. Linens and Things closing all stores
>>
>> 20. Movie Galley Closing all stores
>>
>> 21. Pacific Sunware closing stores
>>
>> 22. Pep Boys Closing 33 stores
>>
>> 23. Sprint/ Nextel closing 133 stores
>>
>> 24. JC Penney closing a number of stores after January
>>
>> 25. Ethan Allen closing down 12 stores
>>
>> 26. Wilson Leather closing down all stores
>>
>> 27. Sharper Image closing down all stores
>>
>> 28. K B Toys closing 356 stores
>>
>> 29. Lowes to close down some stores
>>
>> 30. Dillard's to close some stores
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Rod Speed wrote:
> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:24:42 +1100
> From: Rod Speed <r...@g...com>
> Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants, sci.econ, alt.politics.economics,
> misc.invest.stocks
> Subject: Re: (Business Week) The crooks already stealing the bailout money..
>
> Stray Dog <s...@s...lonestar.org> wrote:
>
>> (see quoted material below)
>
>> Its going to be very bad but wait till after Jan 1, 2009, to get the whole
picture.
>>
>> The bailout money is beyond my comprehension. Recent WSJ article
>> listed and it was many many trillions of dollars. There must have
>> been at least a dozen bailout "projects" all with their own abreviation (like
TARPS), and I may or may not go dig up
>> the article and list it.
>> I have the suspicion that the bailout money is mostly going to end up in the
pockets of the rich
>
> Thats just your blind prejudice/mindless bigotry talking.
With implied infinite wisedom, professed limitless knowledge, and apparent
perfect truth, His Majesty, His Emminence, His Profoundness King Emperor
ROD SPEED continues to try to bluster, bluff, intimidate, blunder, bungle,
and bully his way around the internet in an on-going effort to fool
himself but nobody else.
>> and there will be many millions more unemployed in a few months,
>
> Thats what the bailouts are attempting to avoid.
With implied infinite wisedom, professed limitless knowledge, and apparent
perfect truth, His Majesty, His Emminence, His Profoundness King Emperor
ROD SPEED continues to try to bluster, bluff, intimidate, blunder, bungle,
and bully his way around the internet in an on-going effort to fool
himself but nobody else.
>> and who knows for how long.
>
> And lots of fools like you in mindless headless chicken mode,
> mindlessly producing that result by slashing their spending,
> even tho they cant lose their jobs because they have retired.
With implied infinite wisedom, professed limitless knowledge, and apparent
perfect truth, His Majesty, His Emminence, His Profoundness King Emperor
ROD SPEED continues to try to bluster, bluff, intimidate, blunder, bungle,
and bully his way around the internet in an on-going effort to fool
himself but nobody else.
>> All due to the crooks.
>
> Yeah, yeah, its those damned jews conspiring in smoke filled rooms to shaft us all.
With implied infinite wisedom, professed limitless knowledge, and apparent
perfect truth, His Majesty, His Emminence, His Profoundness King Emperor
ROD SPEED continues to try to bluster, bluff, intimidate, blunder, bungle,
and bully his way around the internet in an on-going effort to fool
himself but nobody else.
>> And, there is all the trouble in the rest of the world, too.
>
> Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it, hysteric.
With implied infinite wisedom, professed limitless knowledge, and apparent
perfect truth, His Majesty, His Emminence, His Profoundness King Emperor
ROD SPEED continues to try to bluster, bluff, intimidate, blunder, bungle,
and bully his way around the internet in an on-going effort to fool
himself but nobody else.
>> ////////////////////////////////////
>>
>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Sushi Fish wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:16:36 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: Sushi Fish <y...@y...com>
>>> Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants, sci.econ,
>>> alt.politics.economics Subject: Re: (Business Week) The crooks
>>> already stealing the bailout money.. On Nov 24, 3:26 pm, Stray Dog
<s...@s...lonestar.org> wrote:
>>>> Business Week, Dec 1, 2008 cover article "The Subprime Wolves are
>>>> back--and they are feeding off the bailout"
>>>>
>>>> page 36: subtitle: "the new game is FHA-backed loand and it could
>>>> cost taxpayers billions more"
>>>>
>>>> plus six pages of text, figures, and sidebars.
>>>>
>>>> So, bountiful moneyharvest for the few rich, the majority of the
>>>> rest of us get the depression.
>>>
>>>
>>> there is an article that FED plans to use 7 trillions to bail out the
>>> economy - today is holiday, but just in case it helps below from an
>>> email I received.
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Watch those store money cards and gift cards and credit slips!
>>>
>>> These are the stores that have informed the Security Exchange of
>>> closing plans between October 2008 and January 2009 (due to the
>>> "recession" and/or the fact that people are not shopping). If you
>>> have any "gift cards" from these stores, make sure you use them, or
>>> you will lose them!
>>>
>>> 1. Circuit City stores... closing all stores
>>>
>>> 2. Macys to close 9 stores after January
>>>
>>> 3. Ann Taylor- 117 stores nationwide are to be shuttered
>>>
>>> 4. Lane Bryant, Fashion Bug and Catherine's to close 150 store
>>> nationwide
>>>
>>> 5. Eddie Bauer to close stores 27 stores and more after January
>>>
>>> 6. Cache will close all stores
>>>
>>> 7. Talbots closing down all stores
>>>
>>> 8. J. Jill closing all stores
>>>
>>> 9. GAP closing 85 stores
>>>
>>> 10. Footlocker closing 140 stores more to close after January
>>>
>>> 11. Wickes Furniture closing down
>>>
>>> 12. Levitz closing down remaining stores
>>>
>>> 13. Bombay closing remaining stores
>>>
>>> 14. Zales closing down 82 stores and 105 after January
>>>
>>> 15. Whitehall closing all stores
>>>
>>> 16. Piercing Pagoda closing all stores
>>>
>>> 17. Disney closing 98 stores and will close more after January
>>>
>>> 18. Home Depot closing 15 stores
>>>
>>> 19. Linens and Things closing all stores
>>>
>>> 20. Movie Galley Closing all stores
>>>
>>> 21. Pacific Sunware closing stores
>>>
>>> 22. Pep Boys Closing 33 stores
>>>
>>> 23. Sprint/ Nextel closing 133 stores
>>>
>>> 24. JC Penney closing a number of stores after January
>>>
>>> 25. Ethan Allen closing down 12 stores
>>>
>>> 26. Wilson Leather closing down all stores
>>>
>>> 27. Sharper Image closing down all stores
>>>
>>> 28. K B Toys closing 356 stores
>>>
>>> 29. Lowes to close down some stores
>>>
>>> 30. Dillard's to close some stores
>
>
>
Some psychotic fuckwit with pathetic drug crazed delusions about
being a dog, desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate
Stray Dog <s...@s...lonestar.org> desperately attempted to bullshit
its way out of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Rod Speed wrote:
> > I am a psychotic fuckwit with pathetic drug crazed delusions about
> > being hot shit on the internet, desperately cowering behind the name Rod
> > Speed <b...@i...outerspace.cranksgalore> and
> > desperately attempt to bullshit my way out of my predicament and
> > fooled only myself, as always. I also love to bully people around,
> > tell them they are liars even if they don't lie, bluff my way through
> > arguments, make idle boasts, call people names, play games like
> > "I'm-right-you're-wrong," and I love to act like an obnoxious 800 lb
> > gorilla.
Here is the Rod Speed FAQ, an antidote to Rod Speed. I didn't write it.
-------------
The "Rod Speed FAQ" read it below or at the URL for yourself.....
- - - - - - - - -
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.inte
rnet.wireless/2006-07/ms
g00462.html
- - - - - - - - - -
After its recent emergence in the thread "How to calculate increase
of home wireless router range?", readers of this group may find
this useful. [based on a post in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage]
Who or What is Rod Speed?
Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod
Speed is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered
he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the
big, hard man" on the InterNet.
Rod is believed to be from Australia.
Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?
It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering
away and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and
more try and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed
also means he as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first
place.
But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?
Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups
including invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a
self professed "expert" and flames any and all who disagree with
him. Logically, here's no way any single individual could be
more than a jack of all trades across such a wide spread of
subject matter.
But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?
Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a
view held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an
opinion and to vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is
simply small mindedness and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein
himself fought against his whole life.
What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?
Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any
other post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he
responds with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an
instantly recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty
much to the following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try
harder, trivial, more lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc".
The fact that Rod has been unable to come up with any new insults
says a lot about his outlook and intelligence.
But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?
It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people
who post have some basis of reason for what they write and when
Rod retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a
class room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges
the pupil to explain himself and the student responds with "***
off, Big Nose!" Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal
proboscis, he gets a dent in his self-esteem and might resort to
an emotional repsonse like "yeah? well your *** wouldn't fill a
pop rivet, punk", which merely invites some oneupmanship from the
naughty pupil. Of course, the teacher should not have justified
the initial comment with a response, especially in front of the
class. The correct response was "please report to the
headmaster's office right NOW!"
What is a "RodBot"?
Some respondents in aus.invest built a "virtual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an
opinion or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were
pathetic lying schoolboys who should be able to do better or some
equally pithy Rod Speedism.
Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?
You got it!
What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?
KillFile!
.
Some psychotic fuckwit with pathetic drug crazed delusions about
being a dog, desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate
Stray Dog <s...@s...lonestar.org> desperately attempted to bullshit
its way out of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
The "Rod Speed FAQ" (I didn't write it): read it below or at the URL for
yourself.....
- - - - - - - - -
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.inte
rnet.wireless/2006-07/ms
g00462.html
- - - - - - - - - -
After its recent emergence in the thread "How to calculate increase
of home wireless router range?", readers of this group may find
this useful. [based on a post in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage]
Who or What is Rod Speed?
Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod
Speed is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered
he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the
big, hard man" on the InterNet.
Rod is believed to be from Australia.
Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?
It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering
away and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and
more try and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed
also means he as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first
place.
But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?
Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups
including invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a
self professed "expert" and flames any and all who disagree with
him. Logically, here's no way any single individual could be
more than a jack of all trades across such a wide spread of
subject matter.
But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?
Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a
view held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an
opinion and to vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is
simply small mindedness and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein
himself fought against his whole life.
What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?
Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any
other post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he
responds with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an
instantly recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty
much to the following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try
harder, trivial, more lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc".
The fact that Rod has been unable to come up with any new insults
says a lot about his outlook and intelligence.
But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?
It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people
who post have some basis of reason for what they write and when
Rod retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a
class room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges
the pupil to explain himself and the student responds with "***
off, Big Nose!" Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal
proboscis, he gets a dent in his self-esteem and might resort to
an emotional repsonse like "yeah? well your *** wouldn't fill a
pop rivet, punk", which merely invites some oneupmanship from the
naughty pupil. Of course, the teacher should not have justified
the initial comment with a response, especially in front of the
class. The correct response was "please report to the
headmaster's office right NOW!"
What is a "RodBot"?
Some respondents in aus.invest built a "virtual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an
opinion or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were
pathetic lying schoolboys who should be able to do better or some
equally pithy Rod Speedism.
Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?
You got it!
What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?
KillFile!
.
Some psychotic fuckwit with pathetic drug crazed delusions about
being a dog, desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate
Stray Dog <s...@s...lonestar.org> desperately attempted to bullshit
its way out of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
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