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1. Date: 2008-11-28 17:46:16
Subject: French court orders disclaimer on Voodoo Doll (what the USA has to look forward to)
From: raylopez99 <r...@g...com> Search message by this author

Only in socialist Europe. And coming to America. This is funny here,
and will increase sales, but in general this sort of pettiness drives
up the cost of doing business. Here in Europe you're lucky if you can
get a permit to open a business in three months--usually it takes six
months.

RL

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_re_eu/eu_f
rance_sarkozy_voodoo_doll

PARIS - A French appeals court says Voodoo dolls of President Nicolas
Sarkozy may remain on sale, but must carry a notice saying that
pricking them harms the president's dignity.
Sarkozy's attorney had asked that the dolls be withdrawn from sale,
saying the president like any French person owns the right to his own
image.
The appeals court backed an earlier ruling allowing the dolls to stay
on the market in the name of freedom of expression.
But it ordered the doll's marketer, publishing house K&B Editions, to
add a warning that using the needles which come with the kits
"constitutes an attack on the personal dignity of Mr. Sarkozy."
"Nicolas Sarkozy: The Voodoo Manual" costs euro12.95 ($16.50) and
includes a handbook and 12 pins.

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2. Date: 2008-11-28 18:04:05
Subject: Re: French court orders disclaimer on Voodoo Doll (what the USA has to look forward to)
From: phil scott <p...@p...net> Search message by this author

On Nov 28, 9:46 am, raylopez99 <r...@g...com> wrote:
> Only in socialist Europe. And coming to America.  This is funny here,
> and will increase sales, but in general this sort of pettiness drives
> up the cost of doing business.  Here in Europe you're lucky if you can
> get a permit to open a business in three months--usually it takes six
> months.
>
> RL
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_re_eu/eu_f
rance_sarkozy_voo...
>
> PARIS - A French appeals court says Voodoo dolls of President Nicolas
> Sarkozy may remain on sale, but must carry a notice saying that
> pricking them harms the president's dignity.
> Sarkozy's attorney had asked that the dolls be withdrawn from sale,
> saying the president like any French person owns the right to his own
> image.
> The appeals court backed an earlier ruling allowing the dolls to stay
> on the market in the name of freedom of expression.
> But it ordered the doll's marketer, publishing house K&B Editions, to
> add a warning that using the needles which come with the kits
> "constitutes an attack on the personal dignity of Mr. Sarkozy."
> "Nicolas Sarkozy: The Voodoo Manual" costs euro12.95 ($16.50) and
> includes a handbook and 12 pins.


an experiement by NASA researchers and others in plant communication:

a room was set up with plants inside, and a double blind entry and
exit... the plants were wired
to measure electrical resistance.

one of the people drew double blind instructions to take one of the
plants out ofits pot and stomp iit
to death... when he did the other plants registered a sort of panic
pattern on the meters... the man left the room.


later all 10 people were run though the room again, one at a
time...when the plant killer guy entered the room the plants again
reacted.... many other experiments preclude any reaction to his body
chemistry or etc. Secret Life of Plants, by Peter Tomkins.


****

there are apparently real influences beyond the 5 senses we have
discovered...

.the only way that would not be true is if one assumes humanity has
reached its pinacle of all knowing wisdom and intelligence




Phil scott

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3. Date: 2008-11-28 22:19:34
Subject: Re: French court orders disclaimer on Voodoo Doll (what the USA has to look forward to)
From: BuffetHater <B...@g...com> Search message by this author

> .the only way that would not be true is if one assumes humanity  has
> reached its pinacle of all knowing  wisdom and intelligence
>
> Phil scott

You have it allll wronggggggg !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Socialism in america has never died, its brought back any time the
wealthy
need a handout. Airlines, banks, autos . . .
Fuck forbid the common man get what they do.

France is the land of the free and home of the brave. The French
bailed
your asses out against the Brits and again with the Nazis. Nick
Sarkozi
will become the leader of the free world and america just another has-
been
debtor nation.

Lucky for us, canada is half french.

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4. Date: 2008-11-28 23:48:00
Subject: Re: French court orders disclaimer on Voodoo Doll (what the USA has to look forward to)
From: "Adam Russell" <a...@y...com.invalid> Search message by this author


"raylopez99" <r...@g...com> wrote in message
news:2282f6a0-6b7c-4578-8db0-87267962ee50@k8g2000yqn
.googlegroups.com...
Only in socialist Europe. And coming to America. This is funny here,
and will increase sales, but in general this sort of pettiness drives
up the cost of doing business. Here in Europe you're lucky if you can
get a permit to open a business in three months--usually it takes six
months.
----------------------------------------------------
----------------------------

You think France is leading the way in over-litigation? really?

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5. Date: 2008-11-30 21:25:10
Subject: Re: French court orders disclaimer on Voodoo Doll (what the USA has to look forward to)
From: shortT <d...@g...com> Search message by this author

On Nov 28, 12:46 pm, raylopez99 <r...@g...com> wrote:
> Only in socialist Europe. And coming to America.  This is funny here,
> and will increase sales, but in general this sort of pettiness drives
> up the cost of doing business.  Here in Europe you're lucky if you can
> get a permit to open a business in three months--usually it takes six
> months.
>
> RL
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_re_eu/eu_f
rance_sarkozy_voo...
>
> PARIS - A French appeals court says Voodoo dolls of President Nicolas
> Sarkozy may remain on sale, but must carry a notice saying that
> pricking them harms the president's dignity.
> Sarkozy's attorney had asked that the dolls be withdrawn from sale,
> saying the president like any French person owns the right to his own
> image.
> The appeals court backed an earlier ruling allowing the dolls to stay
> on the market in the name of freedom of expression.
> But it ordered the doll's marketer, publishing house K&B Editions, to
> add a warning that using the needles which come with the kits
> "constitutes an attack on the personal dignity of Mr. Sarkozy."
> "Nicolas Sarkozy: The Voodoo Manual" costs euro12.95 ($16.50) and
> includes a handbook and 12 pins.

What if the person using the doll was an acupuncturist?
One then would rightly argue that pricking the doll would be to the
benefit
of Mr. Sarkozy.

shortT

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6. Date: 2008-12-01 09:42:11
Subject: Re: French court orders disclaimer on Voodoo Doll (what the USA has to look forward to)
From: raylopez99 <r...@g...com> Search message by this author

On Nov 30, 1:25 pm, shortT <d...@g...com> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 12:46 pm, raylopez99 <r...@g...com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Only in socialist Europe. And coming to America.  This is funny here,
> > and will increase sales, but in general this sort of pettiness drives
> > up the cost of doing business.  Here in Europe you're lucky if you can
> > get a permit to open a business in three months--usually it takes six
> > months.
>
> > RL
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_re_eu/eu_
france_sarkozy_voo...
>
> > PARIS - A French appeals court says Voodoo dolls of President Nicolas
> > Sarkozy may remain on sale, but must carry a notice saying that
> > pricking them harms the president's dignity.
> > Sarkozy's attorney had asked that the dolls be withdrawn from sale,
> > saying the president like any French person owns the right to his own
> > image.
> > The appeals court backed an earlier ruling allowing the dolls to stay
> > on the market in the name of freedom of expression.
> > But it ordered the doll's marketer, publishing house K&B Editions, to
> > add a warning that using the needles which come with the kits
> > "constitutes an attack on the personal dignity of Mr. Sarkozy."
> > "Nicolas Sarkozy: The Voodoo Manual" costs euro12.95 ($16.50) and
> > includes a handbook and 12 pins.
>
> What if the person using the doll was an acupuncturist?
> One then would rightly argue that pricking the doll would be to the
> benefit
> of Mr. Sarkozy.
>
> shortT

Good one; in the annals of silly Usenet posts this ranks as exemplar.

RL

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7. Date: 2008-12-01 09:43:45
Subject: Re: French court orders disclaimer on Voodoo Doll (what the USA has to look forward to)
From: raylopez99 <r...@g...com> Search message by this author

On Nov 28, 3:48 pm, "Adam Russell" <a...@y...com.invalid>
wrote:
> "raylopez99" <r...@g...com> wrote in message
>
> news:2282f6a0-6b7c-4578-8db0-87267962ee50@k8g2000yqn
.googlegroups.com...
> Only in socialist Europe. And coming to America.  This is funny here,
> and will increase sales, but in general this sort of pettiness drives
> up the cost of doing business.  Here in Europe you're lucky if you can
> get a permit to open a business in three months--usually it takes six
> months.
> ----------------------------------------------------
----------------------- -----
>
> You think France is leading the way in over-litigation?  really?

In bureaucratic litigation yes. In America, civil litigation only
targets successful, money making firms which can afford to pay off the
frivolous litigant so not to waste their time, but that's another
issue.

RL

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8. Date: 2008-12-01 10:28:51
Subject: Re: French court orders disclaimer on Voodoo Doll (what the USA has to look forward to)
From: p...@g...com Search message by this author

On Nov 29, 2:04 am, phil scott <p...@p...net> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 9:46 am, raylopez99 <r...@g...com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Only in socialist Europe. And coming to America.  This is funny here,
> > and will increase sales, but in general this sort of pettiness drives
> > up the cost of doing business.  Here in Europe you're lucky if you can
> > get a permit to open a business in three months--usually it takes six
> > months.
>
> > RL
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_re_eu/eu_
france_sarkozy_voo...
>
> > PARIS - A French appeals court says Voodoo dolls of President Nicolas
> > Sarkozy may remain on sale, but must carry a notice saying that
> > pricking them harms the president's dignity.
> > Sarkozy's attorney had asked that the dolls be withdrawn from sale,
> > saying the president like any French person owns the right to his own
> > image.
> > The appeals court backed an earlier ruling allowing the dolls to stay
> > on the market in the name of freedom of expression.
> > But it ordered the doll's marketer, publishing house K&B Editions, to
> > add a warning that using the needles which come with the kits
> > "constitutes an attack on the personal dignity of Mr. Sarkozy."
> > "Nicolas Sarkozy: The Voodoo Manual" costs euro12.95 ($16.50) and
> > includes a handbook and 12 pins.
>
> an experiement by NASA researchers and others in plant communication:
>
> a room was set up with plants inside, and a double blind entry and
> exit...  the plants were wired
> to measure electrical resistance.
>
> one of the people drew double blind instructions to take one of the
> plants out ofits pot and stomp iit
> to death... when he did the other plants registered a sort of panic
> pattern on the meters... the man left the room.
>
> later all 10 people were run though the room again, one at a
> time...when the plant killer guy entered the room the plants again
> reacted....  many other experiments preclude any reaction to his body
> chemistry or etc.     Secret Life of Plants,  by Peter Tomkins.
>
> ****
>
> there are apparently real influences beyond the 5 senses we have
> discovered...
>
> .the only way that would not be true is if one assumes humanity  has
> reached its pinacle of all knowing  wisdom and intelligence
>
> Phil scott

It has been proved that birds can sense the magnetic field of the
Earth, so there are at least 6 senses.

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9. Date: 2008-12-01 17:13:40
Subject: Re: French court orders disclaimer on Voodoo Doll (what the USA has to look forward to)
From: ausound <a...@s...com> Search message by this author

p...@g...com wrote in news:40701879-ef8d-4e9a-9f3e-
68d09bc2320d@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:

>
> It has been proved that birds can sense the magnetic field of the
> Earth, so there are at least 6 senses.

include "GAY-dar"
and bullshit meter and ya got 8

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10. Date: 2008-12-01 18:39:37
Subject: Re: French court orders disclaimer on Voodoo Doll (what the USA has to look forward to)
From: Doobie Keebler <k...@g...com> Search message by this author

On Dec 1, 11:13 am, ausound <a...@s...com> wrote:

> include "GAY-dar"
> and bullshit meter and ya got 8

SpideySense (tm) . . that's 9

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