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Bushsucks wrote:
> That means BEGIN THE GETTING OUT NOW, and be OUT by this spring.
>
> Let's stop catering to Bush's ego, the Military-Industrial Complex,
> and Mideast Troublemaker Israel.
You wormy piece of fascist trash.God damn your black cesspool eyes. God
damn your maggot eaten brain. How ugly and dirty inside the head does a
person have to get, to sit there condemning a people for fighting in
its own defense? You . . . there isn't a word for it and that's why
Israel must always counter filthy lies of propaganda like that with
bullets and bombs.
Yeah, that's right, Schmuck, as to Iraq, you better get it right!
On the day that Sadaam Hussein was pulled from his hole and made
captive, America had won the Iraq war. That was victory supreme by any
definition and it was over!
So what's with this "staying the course" baggage in the brain from the
Bush administration that has us fighting a war after its won, already?
What manner of madness has us back in Deja-Vu Vietnam, all over again,
insanely trying to fight the impossible to defeat, no-holds-barred
guerilla tactics of a barbarism that an army constrained by
conventional standards of battlefield honor has not the savagery with
which to contend?
What in the name of anybody's god, is "the course"? I'll tell you one
thing, it's not Political Science 101 and it sure ain't World History.
No, really, it's strictly from the Advanced Basket Weaving class at the
State Hospital for the Criminally Insane. That's what, and here's why .
. .
The idea of "staying the course" flows from the utterly psychotic
notion that after you've bombed your enemy to a bleeding pulp,
imprisoned and/or executed his rulers--okay, now it's time to make
friends! Okay, are we done laughing? Well, take your time . .
And for what we should have these new friends with whom to kiss and
make up? Why, in order to give them money, lots of money for
reconstruction, lots of our blood and lives while it interminably goes
on in the midst of constant sabotage taking it back to square one. We
must give them all we have to give, and plenty enough to bankrupt the
tax revenues of our nations.
And that's "Staying the course." After the war is over, and you have
successfully whacked at least one relative of every person in the enemy
country, what you do is you keep your soldiers right there on that
ground riding around the town so that every grieving father, son,
mother, brother and cousin of the dead can take potshots at them. And
that isn't even the best part of it!
Staying the course is based on the notion that you owe something to the
people of the nation you have conquered. And so long as you are staying
the course, the reality based thought never enters your head that you
don't owe your "former" enemy anything. No! It's entirely the other way
around. Especially is this the case when that country is multiple
billions of barrels of oil richer than we will ever be. No. They owe
us; we don't owe them.
Why do they owe us? Because as our leaders saw it, we had to take care
of their dirty business for them. As they were being ruled by a
ruthless dictator, it was their responsibility, and theirs alone to
depose him and get him off their own necks. With some real valor and
planning they could have done it no different than the people of
France, or the Russians, the Israelis versus the British, the Mexicans
against Spain. But, apparently, it was not important enough for the
Iraqis to do that. People who love liberty will have it whatever the
cost. Those whose culture does not contemplate it do not demand it so
they do not offer the sacrifice of their blood and lives required to
rise up and take it. Due to this malfeasance of duty to Liberty and the
rest of civilization on their part, the savage ruler of barbarian Iraq
was running rampant throughout the world fomenting aggression,
bankrolling sabotage, subversion, and bloody terror. The elected
leaders of the United States and Britain saw that an end had to be put
to it--at great expense to the fathers, mothers, wives, daughters and
children of our peoples, and this is not so much as to mention the
taxpayers, and the national debt, damn it all to hell!
The people of Iraq totally owed a status of non- aggression to the
world; that was the debt they had let go bad, and the one on which we
have to collect. We might easily have done that, had "staying the
course" not got in the way. Had George Bush the sense he was born with
(or not), but . . . if somebody in the Allied governments had taken
some thought, they would have acted in terms of it--and not by
occupying Baghdad for the godsake! No, but the Port of Basra on the
Gulf, and Kurdistan, instead.
Well, what do you think? Having done that, we would have secured their
natural resources for them against sabotage by establishing greatly
fortified enclaves around the oilfields. Then, like people with sanity
and good common sense, exclusive contracts would be drawn up directly
with the Kurds and in trust for any future Sunni and Shia leadership,
for the distribution of that oil to the world.
In this way, we should have provided the means to buy ourselves back
out of the national bankruptcy this war has put us in, whether
Washington and Wall Street are ready to face it, or not. Further, we
should have put a limited time royalty on that oil, strictly to the
service of the Allied war debt. And what the hell else? Are we dreamers
here, or what?
Yes, it would be up to the people of Iraq to reimburse the Allies for
every single penny spent toward prosecution of this bloody, deadly
action leading to the defeat and capture of their leaders. If they had
to come up with those royalties for the next fifty years to make good
on this unwelcome opportunity for self-rule they now have, then it's
worth every dollar and a billion billion more--if only they knew the
value of it, which they don't.
The Sunni-Shia civil war is none of our concern. Let them butcher one
another until the day they see the light about the savage fault in
their creed and culture which so totally is causing them to be like
that. And since religion is highly important to them, let Buddhist
missionaries minister to them, Christians and Hindus to boot. Let the
Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, the Christian Scientists, the
everlovin' Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, if he's still kicking, go over there
to try and instill to their society something peaceful and friendly to
contemplate for a change. And let that be, from now on what we call,
"staying the course" in Iraq.
--
Mackie
http://www.mackiemesser.zoomshare.com/0.html
Mackie wrote:
> Bushsucks wrote:
> > That means BEGIN THE GETTING OUT NOW, and be OUT by this spring.
> >
> > Let's stop catering to Bush's ego, the Military-Industrial Complex,
> > and Mideast Troublemaker Israel.
>
> You wormy piece of fascist trash.God damn your black cesspool eyes. God
> damn your maggot eaten brain. How ugly and dirty inside the head does a
> person have to get, to sit there condemning a people for fighting in
> its own defense? You . . . there isn't a word for it and that's why
> Israel must always counter filthy lies of propaganda like that with
> bullets and bombs.
>
> Yeah, that's right, Schmuck, as to Iraq, you better get it right!
>
> On the day that Sadaam Hussein was pulled from his hole and made
> captive, America had won the Iraq war. That was victory supreme by any
> definition and it was over!
>
> So what's with this "staying the course" baggage in the brain from the
> Bush administration that has us fighting a war after its won, already?
> What manner of madness has us back in Deja-Vu Vietnam, all over again,
> insanely trying to fight the impossible to defeat, no-holds-barred
> guerilla tactics of a barbarism that an army constrained by
> conventional standards of battlefield honor has not the savagery with
> which to contend?
> ...
Your question should lead you to question or at least
investigate your premises, since the premises you
assume to not correspond with the phenomena we
observe.
"*Anarcissie*" <a...@g...com> wrote in message
news:1166020627.393700.55190@j72g2000cwa.googlegroup
s.com...
> Your question should lead you to question or at least
> investigate your premises, since the premises you
> assume to not correspond with the phenomena we
> observe.
Balderdash and Pussyfeathers!
Tug your head out of the gooey morass of Tikrit and Abu Ghraib anecdote
long enough to wake up and smell the Mosque, and after you've had your
sip of steaming suet streaming into the gutter from the dismembered and
burning Shiites there, or from corpses sizzling and sputtering in the
employment line, read on into reason and the only honorable solution
extant in print here or anywhere . . .
From: "Mack the Nice" <d...@y...com>
Subject: Re: Staying the Curse of the Course
Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:34 AM
AN OPEN LETTER TO GENERATION "X" AND BEYOND
Ever hear of Nuremberg you silly wet-in-the-diapers born yesterday
goose-stepping two foot tall tit in the mouth toddler from Captain
Kangaroo? You better bet your two-bit, made by Red China slave labor
plastic two shoes, the people of Iraq are responsible for Sadaam's
every gallon of WMD gas that wasted the Kurds--who else do you think?
Who else? I'll tell you who else: YOU. Whiners like you who are willing
to just stand by and watch it happen, that's who; you the War Criminal
judged GUILTY at Nuremberg for doing nothing, that's who. What's the
matter with your stuffed full of Fruit Loops, perfectly square, pimply
little head? That's Nuremberg, Mr. Born Clueless; it's the Judgment
holding YOU responsible this time around, Mr. Smarty-Pants in the
Boots. You, the silly schtupping wet behind the ears, short-pants
Hillary Youth--that's who's responsible for the Killing Fields in Gaza,
Lebanon, and the World Trade Towers. Your gutless, weak-willed,
irresponsible, do-nothing, know-nothing, twaddle-tongued talk from the
tin whistle in the toy box.
> for the u.s.'s pre-emptive war on it . . .
Was it a "pre-emptive war" when Clinton invaded Bosnia to stop fascist
Serbia from exterminating the Muslims of Sarajevo?
No? Fine. The war was already in progress, just as with the genocidal
aggression of Iraq/Sadaam (same thing) against Israel with that
blood-money funding of Palestinian terror. Pigs! Fascists! Jew Killers!
Listen up: the war was already in progress in Israel, you blind swine.
And there is no difference--except you see it through the eyes of a
pig, a fascist pig, little beady eyes like *your eyes* by which you see
nothing, except your support for the Jew killers in Gaza and South
Lebanon. Pigs! Swine! Check it out! The genocidal aggression of Sadaam
against the Kurds during the kingdom of George I meant nothing to you
or to him, nor to Bill Clinton. You pigs! You swine! Only when the WMD
dropped on American heads in New York and Washington, did George II
wake up--but you? You are yet asleep in the dirty muddy sloppy sty, in
the pig pen of the most clueless fascism ever invented, the worst kind,
the Nazi kind that goes by the name of "progressive" or "liberal" and
"democrat" or "socialist".
From: "Mackie" <d...@y...com>
Subject: Staying the Curse of the Course
Date: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:18 AM
On the day that Sadaam Hussein was pulled from his hole and made
captive, America had won the Iraq war. That was victory supreme by any
definition and it was over!
So what's with this "staying the course" baggage in the brain from the
Bush administration that has us fighting a war after its won, already?
What manner of madness has us back in Deja-Vu Vietnam, all over again,
insanely trying to fight the impossible to defeat, no-holds-barred
guerilla tactics of a barbarism that an army constrained by
conventional standards of battlefield honor has not the savagery with
which to contend?
What in the name of anybody's god, is "the course"? I'll tell you one
thing, it's not Political Science 101 and it sure ain't World History.
No, really, it's strictly from the Advanced Basket Weaving class at the
State Hospital for the Criminally Insane. That's what, and here's why .
. .
The idea of "staying the course" flows from the utterly psychotic
notion that after you've bombed your enemy to a bleeding pulp,
imprisoned and/or executed his rulers--okay, now it's time to make
friends! Okay, are we done laughing? Well, take your time . .
And for what we should have these new friends with whom to kiss and
make up? Why, in order to give them money, lots of money for
reconstruction, lots of our blood and lives while it interminably goes
on in the midst of constant sabotage taking it back to square one. We
must give them all we have to give, and plenty enough to bankrupt the
tax revenues of our nations.
And that's "Staying the course." After the war is over, and you have
successfully whacked at least one relative of every person in the enemy
country, what you do is you keep your soldiers right there on that
ground riding around the town so that every grieving father, son,
mother, brother and cousin of the dead can take potshots at them. And
that isn't even the best part of it!
Staying the course is based on the notion that you owe something to the
people of the nation you have conquered. And so long as you are staying
the course, the reality based thought never enters your head that you
don't owe your "former" enemy anything. No! It's entirely the other way
around. Especially is this the case when that country is multiple
billions of barrels of oil richer than we will ever be. No. They owe
us; we don't owe them.
Why do they owe us? Because as our leaders saw it, we had to take care
of their dirty business for them. As they were being ruled by a
ruthless dictator, it was their responsibility, and theirs alone to
depose him and get him off their own necks. With some real valor and
planning they could have done it no different than the people of
France, or the Russians, the Israelis versus the British, the Mexicans
against Spain. But, apparently, it was not important enough for the
Iraqis to do that. People who love liberty will have it whatever the
cost. Those whose culture does not contemplate it do not demand it so
they do not offer the sacrifice of their blood and lives required to
rise up and take it. Due to this malfeasance of duty to Liberty and the
rest of civilization on their part, the savage ruler of barbarian Iraq
was running rampant throughout the world fomenting aggression,
bankrolling sabotage, subversion, and bloody terror. The elected
leaders of the United States and Britain saw that an end had to be put
to it--at great expense to the fathers, mothers, wives, daughters and
children of our peoples, and this is not so much as to mention the
taxpayers, and the national debt, damn it all to hell!
The people of Iraq totally owed a status of non- aggression to the
world; that was the debt they had let go bad, and the one on which we
have to collect. We might easily have done that, had "staying the
course" not got in the way. Had George Bush the sense he was born with
(or not), but . . . if somebody in the Allied governments had taken
some thought, they would have acted in terms of it--and not by
occupying Baghdad for the godsake! No, but the Port of Basra on the
Gulf, and Kurdistan, instead.
Well, what do you think? Having done that, we would have secured their
natural resources for them against sabotage by establishing greatly
fortified enclaves around the oilfields. Then, like people with sanity
and good common sense, exclusive contracts would be drawn up directly
with the Kurds and in trust for any future Sunni and Shia leadership,
for the distribution of that oil to the world.
In this way, we should have provided the means to buy ourselves back
out of the national bankruptcy this war has put us in, whether
Washington and Wall Street are ready to face it, or not. Further, we
should have put a limited time royalty on that oil, strictly to the
service of the Allied war debt. And what the hell else? Are we dreamers
here, or what?
Yes, it would be up to the people of Iraq to reimburse the Allies for
every single penny spent toward prosecution of this bloody, deadly
action leading to the defeat and capture of their leaders. If they had
to come up with those royalties for the next fifty years to make good
on this unwelcome opportunity for self-rule they now have, then it's
worth every dollar and a billion billion more--if only they knew the
value of it, which they don't.
The Sunni-Shia civil war is none of our concern. Let them butcher one
another until the day they see the light about the savage fault in
their creed and culture which so totally is causing them to be like
that. And since religion is highly important to them, let Buddhist
missionaries minister to them, Christians and Hindus to boot. Let the
Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, the Christian Scientists, the
everlovin' Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, if he's still kicking, go over there
to try and instill to their society something peaceful and friendly to
contemplate for a change. And let that be, from now on what we call,
"staying the course" in Iraq.
--
Mackie
http://www.mackiemesser.zoomshare.com/0.html
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