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"RS" <p...@g...com> wrote in message
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> Keeping up on the news in Iowa is very heart wrenching. With New
> Orleans, does that
> make three major U.S. cities have now experienced devastating
> flooding?
> Not sure if Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are considered "major" but
> it's
> obvious the devastation there is.
>
> It's not hard to see as the ice cap and glaciers melt, that this
> releases
> more water in the "water cycle" which increases the amount of rainfall
> and cloud cover. The water is no longer locked in a locked state of
> ice, so
> the water level at the coastlines or in the mainland is higher.
ROTFLMAO
Sorry but sea levels have not risen significantly since 1985!
No Rise In Sea Level At Tuvalu Since 1985
June 19, 2008
The Age will run on its opinion page even the most discredited of global
warming myths that a professional Friends of the Earth alarmist can
present:
The people of the Carteret Islands, a group of tiny atolls 85 kilometres
north-east of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea, are now trying to secure
funding to enable them to evacuate to Bougainville as rising sea levels
will soon make their island homes uninhabitable.
Er, that's not caused by rising seas, dear Age, but falling land.
Oh, and then there's that claim again that Tuvalu is drowning - a claim
made for so long now that it's odd it's still there. But has The Age
ever mentioned that Australian measurements on Tuvalu actually record
hardly any sea-level rise at all?
These facts are so well known that no serious newspapers should lend
premium space to air them yet again. But let's not have the facts get in
the way of a good scare in a green cause, right?
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/comments/age_drowns_in_green_myths/
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"Climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some
intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global-warming
policy." Roger A. Pielke, Professor, Environmental Studies, University
of Colorado
On Jun 24, 2:32 am, "0ZNB0" <0...@d...com> wrote:
> "RS" <p...@g...com> wrote in message
>
> news:6532f024-fa6b-4176-bc53-cdbd135ca6ce@w8g2000prd
.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Keeping up on the news in Iowa is very heart wrenching. With New
> > Orleans, does that
> > make three major U.S. cities have now experienced devastating
> > flooding?
> > Not sure if Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are considered "major" but
> > it's
> > obvious the devastation there is.
>
> > It's not hard to see as the ice cap and glaciers melt, that this
> > releases
> > more water in the "water cycle" which increases the amount of rainfall
> > and cloud cover. The water is no longer locked in a locked state of
> > ice, so
> > the water level at the coastlines or in the mainland is higher.
>
> ROTFLMAO
> Sorry but sea levels have not risen significantly since 1985!
>
> No Rise In Sea Level At Tuvalu Since 1985
>
> June 19, 2008
>
> The Age will run on its opinion page even the most discredited of global
> warming myths that a professional Friends of the Earth alarmist can
> present:
>
> The people of the Carteret Islands, a group of tiny atolls 85 kilometres
> north-east of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea, are now trying to secure
> funding to enable them to evacuate to Bougainville as rising sea levels
> will soon make their island homes uninhabitable.
>
> Er, that's not caused by rising seas, dear Age, but falling land.
>
> Oh, and then there's that claim again that Tuvalu is drowning - a claim
> made for so long now that it's odd it's still there. But has The Age
> ever mentioned that Australian measurements on Tuvalu actually record
> hardly any sea-level rise at all?
>
> These facts are so well known that no serious newspapers should lend
> premium space to air them yet again. But let's not have the facts get in
> the way of a good scare in a green cause, right?
>
> http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/com...
>
> Warmest Regards
>
> Bonzo
>
> "Climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some
> intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global-warming
> policy." Roger A. Pielke, Professor, Environmental Studies, University
> of Colorado
You must have a tin ear to science. Seal levels have been rising
steadily since the last ice age. Since 1900 the level has risen at 1
to 2 mm/yr; since 1993 satellite altimetry from TOPEX/Poseidon
indicates a rate of rise of 3.1 ? 0.7 mm yr-1 . Church and White
(2006) found a sea-level rise from January 1870 to December 2004 of
195 mm, a 20th century rate of sea-level rise of 1.7 ? 0.3 mm per yr
and a significant acceleration of sea-level rise of 0.013 ? 0.006 mm
per year. If this acceleration remains constant, then the 1990 to 2100
rise would range from 280 to 340 mm. Sea-level rise can be a product
of global warming through two main processes: thermal expansion of sea
water and widespread melting of land ice. Global warming is predicted
to cause significant rises in sea level over the course of the twenty-
first century.
source: Wikipedia
"0ZNB0" <0...@d...com> wrote in news:486094fe$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au:
>
> "RS" <p...@g...com> wrote in message
> news:6532f024-fa6b-4176-bc53-cdbd135ca6ce@w8g2000prd
.googlegroups.com..
> .
>> Keeping up on the news in Iowa is very heart wrenching. With New
>> Orleans, does that
>> make three major U.S. cities have now experienced devastating
>> flooding?
>> Not sure if Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are considered "major" but
>> it's
>> obvious the devastation there is.
>>
>> It's not hard to see as the ice cap and glaciers melt, that this
>> releases
>> more water in the "water cycle" which increases the amount of
>> rainfall and cloud cover. The water is no longer locked in a locked
>> state of ice, so
>> the water level at the coastlines or in the mainland is higher.
>
> ROTFLMAO
> Sorry but sea levels have not risen significantly since 1985!
>
>
> No Rise In Sea Level At Tuvalu Since 1985
>
> June 19, 2008
>
>
>
> The Age will run on its opinion page even the most discredited of
> global warming myths that a professional Friends of the Earth alarmist
> can present:
>
>
>
> The people of the Carteret Islands, a group of tiny atolls 85
> kilometres north-east of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea, are now
> trying to secure funding to enable them to evacuate to Bougainville as
> rising sea levels will soon make their island homes uninhabitable.
>
>
>
> Er, that's not caused by rising seas, dear Age, but falling land.
>
>
>
> Oh, and then there's that claim again that Tuvalu is drowning - a
> claim made for so long now that it's odd it's still there. But has The
> Age ever mentioned that Australian measurements on Tuvalu actually
> record hardly any sea-level rise at all?
>
>
>
> These facts are so well known that no serious newspapers should lend
> premium space to air them yet again. But let's not have the facts get
> in the way of a good scare in a green cause, right?
>
>
>
> http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/comme
> nts/age_drowns_in_green_myths/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest Regards
>
> Bonzo
>
> "Climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some
> intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global-warming
> policy." Roger A. Pielke, Professor, Environmental Studies, University
> of Colorado
>
>
You know, you've lost the arguement on GW. The debate is over, except for
the feeble minded who still see the sun revolving around a flat earth.
Did you know that men landed on the moon in the sixties or are you also
among those who deny that too?
"Phisher KIng" <locker2@thebusstartion> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Xns9AC757804FCCAgilliam@216.196.97.131...
> "0ZNB0" <0...@d...com> wrote in news:486094fe$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au:
>
> >
> > "RS" <p...@g...com> wrote in message
> > news:6532f024-fa6b-4176-bc53-cdbd135ca6ce@w8g2000prd
.googlegroups.com..
> > .
> >> Keeping up on the news in Iowa is very heart wrenching. With New
> >> Orleans, does that
> >> make three major U.S. cities have now experienced devastating
> >> flooding?
> >> Not sure if Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are considered "major" but
> >> it's
> >> obvious the devastation there is.
> >>
> >> It's not hard to see as the ice cap and glaciers melt, that this
> >> releases
> >> more water in the "water cycle" which increases the amount of
> >> rainfall and cloud cover. The water is no longer locked in a locked
> >> state of ice, so
> >> the water level at the coastlines or in the mainland is higher.
> >
> > ROTFLMAO
> > Sorry but sea levels have not risen significantly since 1985!
> >
> >
> > No Rise In Sea Level At Tuvalu Since 1985
> >
> > June 19, 2008
> >
> >
> >
> > The Age will run on its opinion page even the most discredited of
> > global warming myths that a professional Friends of the Earth alarmist
> > can present:
> >
> >
> >
> > The people of the Carteret Islands, a group of tiny atolls 85
> > kilometres north-east of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea, are now
> > trying to secure funding to enable them to evacuate to Bougainville as
> > rising sea levels will soon make their island homes uninhabitable.
> >
> >
> >
> > Er, that's not caused by rising seas, dear Age, but falling land.
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh, and then there's that claim again that Tuvalu is drowning - a
> > claim made for so long now that it's odd it's still there. But has The
> > Age ever mentioned that Australian measurements on Tuvalu actually
> > record hardly any sea-level rise at all?
> >
> >
> >
> > These facts are so well known that no serious newspapers should lend
> > premium space to air them yet again. But let's not have the facts get
> > in the way of a good scare in a green cause, right?
> >
> >
> >
> > http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/comme
> > nts/age_drowns_in_green_myths/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Warmest Regards
> >
> > Bonzo
> >
> > "Climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some
> > intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global-warming
> > policy." Roger A. Pielke, Professor, Environmental Studies, University
> > of Colorado
> >
> >
>
> You know, you've lost the arguement on GW. The debate is over, except for
> the feeble minded who still see the sun revolving around a flat earth.
> Did you know that men landed on the moon in the sixties or are you also
> among those who deny that too?
Is this the right way of argumentation on GW you mentioned?
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
> "Phisher KIng" <locker2@thebusstartion> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:Xns9AC757804FCCAgilliam@216.196.97.131...
>> "0ZNB0" <0...@d...com> wrote in
>> news:486094fe$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au:
>>
>>>
>>> "RS" <p...@g...com> wrote in message
>>> news:6532f024-fa6b-4176-bc53-cdbd135ca6ce@w8g2000prd
.googlegroups.com..
>>> .
>>>> Keeping up on the news in Iowa is very heart wrenching. With New
>>>> Orleans, does that
>>>> make three major U.S. cities have now experienced devastating
>>>> flooding?
>>>> Not sure if Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are considered "major" but
>>>> it's
>>>> obvious the devastation there is.
>>>>
>>>> It's not hard to see as the ice cap and glaciers melt, that this
>>>> releases
>>>> more water in the "water cycle" which increases the amount of
>>>> rainfall and cloud cover. The water is no longer locked in a
>>>> locked state of ice, so
>>>> the water level at the coastlines or in the mainland is higher.
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO
>>> Sorry but sea levels have not risen significantly since 1985!
>>>
>>>
>>> No Rise In Sea Level At Tuvalu Since 1985
>>>
>>> June 19, 2008
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Age will run on its opinion page even the most discredited of
>>> global warming myths that a professional Friends of the Earth
>>> alarmist can present:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The people of the Carteret Islands, a group of tiny atolls 85
>>> kilometres north-east of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea, are now
>>> trying to secure funding to enable them to evacuate to Bougainville
>>> as rising sea levels will soon make their island homes
>>> uninhabitable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Er, that's not caused by rising seas, dear Age, but falling land.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, and then there's that claim again that Tuvalu is drowning - a
>>> claim made for so long now that it's odd it's still there. But has
>>> The Age ever mentioned that Australian measurements on Tuvalu
>>> actually record hardly any sea-level rise at all?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These facts are so well known that no serious newspapers should lend
>>> premium space to air them yet again. But let's not have the facts
>>> get in the way of a good scare in a green cause, right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/comme
>>> nts/age_drowns_in_green_myths/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warmest Regards
>>>
>>> Bonzo
>>>
>>> "Climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some
>>> intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global-warming
>>> policy." Roger A. Pielke, Professor, Environmental Studies,
>>> University of Colorado
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You know, you've lost the arguement on GW. The debate is over,
>> except for the feeble minded who still see the sun revolving around
>> a flat earth. Did you know that men landed on the moon in the
>> sixties or are you also among those who deny that too?
>
> Is this the right way of argumentation on GW you mentioned?
Just the facts, Ma'am, just the facts.
"Secular Human" <e...@g...com> wrote in message
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g.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 24, 2:32 am, "0ZNB0" <0...@d...com> wrote:
> "RS" <p...@g...com> wrote in message
>
> news:6532f024-fa6b-4176-bc53-cdbd135ca6ce@w8g2000prd
.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Keeping up on the news in Iowa is very heart wrenching. With New
> > Orleans, does that
> > make three major U.S. cities have now experienced devastating
> > flooding?
> > Not sure if Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are considered "major" but
> > it's
> > obvious the devastation there is.
>
> > It's not hard to see as the ice cap and glaciers melt, that this
> > releases
> > more water in the "water cycle" which increases the amount of
> > rainfall
> > and cloud cover. The water is no longer locked in a locked state of
> > ice, so
> > the water level at the coastlines or in the mainland is higher.
>
> ROTFLMAO
> Sorry but sea levels have not risen significantly since 1985!
>
> No Rise In Sea Level At Tuvalu Since 1985
>
> June 19, 2008
>
> The Age will run on its opinion page even the most discredited of
> global
> warming myths that a professional Friends of the Earth alarmist can
> present:
>
> The people of the Carteret Islands, a group of tiny atolls 85
> kilometres
> north-east of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea, are now trying to
> secure
> funding to enable them to evacuate to Bougainville as rising sea
> levels
> will soon make their island homes uninhabitable.
>
> Er, that's not caused by rising seas, dear Age, but falling land.
>
> Oh, and then there's that claim again that Tuvalu is drowning - a
> claim
> made for so long now that it's odd it's still there. But has The Age
> ever mentioned that Australian measurements on Tuvalu actually record
> hardly any sea-level rise at all?
>
> These facts are so well known that no serious newspapers should lend
> premium space to air them yet again. But let's not have the facts get
> in
> the way of a good scare in a green cause, right?
>
> http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/com...
>
> Warmest Regards
>
> Bonzo
>
> "Climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some
> intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global-warming
> policy." Roger A. Pielke, Professor, Environmental Studies, University
> of Colorado
You must have a tin ear to science. Seal levels have been rising
steadily since the last ice age. Since 1900 the level has risen at 1
to 2 mm/yr; since 1993
**************
EXACTLY!
No significant rise in sea levels since 1985!
When you have to measure the rise in mm then it's not significant!!
--
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"... none of the climate states in the models correspond even remotely to
the current observed climate. In particular, the state of the oceans,
sea ice, and soil moisture has no relationship to the observed state at
any recent time in any of the IPCC models." Kevin Trenberth, IPCC
Coordinating Lead Author
Secular Human <e...@g...com> wrote:
>On Jun 24, 2:32 am, "0ZNB0" <0...@d...com> wrote:
>> "RS" <p...@g...com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:6532f024-fa6b-4176-bc53-cdbd135ca6ce@w8g2000prd
.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Keeping up on the news in Iowa is very heart wrenching. With New
>> > Orleans, does that
>> > make three major U.S. cities have now experienced devastating
>> > flooding?
>> > Not sure if Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are considered "major" but
>> > it's
>> > obvious the devastation there is.
>>
>> > It's not hard to see as the ice cap and glaciers melt, that this
>> > releases
>> > more water in the "water cycle" which increases the amount of rainfall
>> > and cloud cover. The water is no longer locked in a locked state of
>> > ice, so
>> > the water level at the coastlines or in the mainland is higher.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO
>> Sorry but sea levels have not risen significantly since 1985!
>>
>> No Rise In Sea Level At Tuvalu Since 1985
>>
>> June 19, 2008
>>
>> The Age will run on its opinion page even the most discredited of global
>> warming myths that a professional Friends of the Earth alarmist can
>> present:
>>
>> The people of the Carteret Islands, a group of tiny atolls 85 kilometres
>> north-east of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea, are now trying to secure
>> funding to enable them to evacuate to Bougainville as rising sea levels
>> will soon make their island homes uninhabitable.
>>
>> Er, that's not caused by rising seas, dear Age, but falling land.
>>
>> Oh, and then there's that claim again that Tuvalu is drowning - a claim
>> made for so long now that it's odd it's still there. But has The Age
>> ever mentioned that Australian measurements on Tuvalu actually record
>> hardly any sea-level rise at all?
>>
>> These facts are so well known that no serious newspapers should lend
>> premium space to air them yet again. But let's not have the facts get in
>> the way of a good scare in a green cause, right?
>>
>> http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/com...
>>
>> Warmest Regards
>>
>> Bonzo
>>
>> "Climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some
>> intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global-warming
>> policy." Roger A. Pielke, Professor, Environmental Studies, University
>> of Colorado
>
>You must have a tin ear to science. Seal levels have been rising
>steadily since the last ice age. Since 1900 the level has risen at 1
>to 2 mm/yr; since 1993 satellite altimetry from TOPEX/Poseidon
>indicates a rate of rise of 3.1 ? 0.7 mm yr-1 . Church and White
>(2006) found a sea-level rise from January 1870 to December 2004 of
>195 mm, a 20th century rate of sea-level rise of 1.7 ? 0.3 mm per yr
>and a significant acceleration of sea-level rise of 0.013 ? 0.006 mm
>per year. If this acceleration remains constant, then the 1990 to 2100
>rise would range from 280 to 340 mm. Sea-level rise can be a product
>of global warming through two main processes: thermal expansion of sea
>water and widespread melting of land ice. Global warming is predicted
>to cause significant rises in sea level over the course of the twenty-
>first century.
>
>source: Wikipedia
Sea level changes of 2 or 3 mm a year are difficult to measure,
without a ground reference, any measurement is meaningless, and the
ground at different places can either be rising or falling.
The solid Earth rises about a foot when the moon is over head,
so a measurement over a ten year period has to account for where the
moon was during the measurement.
Wiki is a wonderful source of interesting information, but is
hardly an indisputable source.
And the talk of future changes is in the same class as witchcraft,
with apparently the same purpose.
Whata Fool <w...@f...ami> wrote:
> Secular Human <e...@g...com> wrote:
>
> >On Jun 24, 2:32 am, "0ZNB0" <0...@d...com> wrote:
> >> "RS" <p...@g...com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:6532f024-fa6b-4176-bc53-cdbd135ca6ce@w8g2000prd
.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> > Keeping up on the news in Iowa is very heart wrenching. With New
> >> > Orleans, does that
> >> > make three major U.S. cities have now experienced devastating
> >> > flooding?
> >> > Not sure if Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are considered "major" but
> >> > it's
> >> > obvious the devastation there is.
> >>
> >> > It's not hard to see as the ice cap and glaciers melt, that this
> >> > releases
> >> > more water in the "water cycle" which increases the amount of rainfall
> >> > and cloud cover. The water is no longer locked in a locked state of
> >> > ice, so
> >> > the water level at the coastlines or in the mainland is higher.
> >>
> >> ROTFLMAO
> >> Sorry but sea levels have not risen significantly since 1985!
> >>
> >> No Rise In Sea Level At Tuvalu Since 1985
> >>
> >> June 19, 2008
> >>
> >> The Age will run on its opinion page even the most discredited of global
> >> warming myths that a professional Friends of the Earth alarmist can
> >> present:
> >>
> >> The people of the Carteret Islands, a group of tiny atolls 85 kilometres
> >> north-east of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea, are now trying to secure
> >> funding to enable them to evacuate to Bougainville as rising sea levels
> >> will soon make their island homes uninhabitable.
> >>
> >> Er, that's not caused by rising seas, dear Age, but falling land.
> >>
> >> Oh, and then there's that claim again that Tuvalu is drowning - a claim
> >> made for so long now that it's odd it's still there. But has The Age
> >> ever mentioned that Australian measurements on Tuvalu actually record
> >> hardly any sea-level rise at all?
> >>
> >> These facts are so well known that no serious newspapers should lend
> >> premium space to air them yet again. But let's not have the facts get in
> >> the way of a good scare in a green cause, right?
> >>
> >> http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/com...
> >>
> >> Warmest Regards
> >>
> >> Bonzo
> >>
> >> "Climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some
> >> intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global-warming
> >> policy." Roger A. Pielke, Professor, Environmental Studies, University
> >> of Colorado
> >
> >You must have a tin ear to science. Seal levels have been rising
> >steadily since the last ice age. Since 1900 the level has risen at 1
> >to 2 mm/yr; since 1993 satellite altimetry from TOPEX/Poseidon
> >indicates a rate of rise of 3.1 ± 0.7 mm yr–1 . Church and White
> >(2006) found a sea-level rise from January 1870 to December 2004 of
> >195 mm, a 20th century rate of sea-level rise of 1.7 ± 0.3 mm per yr
> >and a significant acceleration of sea-level rise of 0.013 ± 0.006 mm
> >per year. If this acceleration remains constant, then the 1990 to 2100
> >rise would range from 280 to 340 mm. Sea-level rise can be a product
> >of global warming through two main processes: thermal expansion of sea
> >water and widespread melting of land ice. Global warming is predicted
> >to cause significant rises in sea level over the course of the twenty-
> >first century.
> >
> >source: Wikipedia
>
>
> Sea level changes of 2 or 3 mm a year are difficult to measure,
> without a ground reference, any measurement is meaningless, and the
> ground at different places can either be rising or falling.
>
> The solid Earth rises about a foot when the moon is over head,
> so a measurement over a ten year period has to account for where the
> moon was during the measurement.
Don't forget tectonics. Landmasses ups and downs.
Whata Fool <w...@f...ami> wrote:
> fPeter Muehlbauer <s...@f...de> wrote:
>
> >Whata Fool <w...@f...ami> wrote:
> >
> >> Secular Human <e...@g...com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Jun 24, 2:32?am, "0ZNB0" <0...@d...com> wrote:
> >> >> "RS" <p...@g...com> wrote in message
> >> >>
> >> >> news:6532f024-fa6b-4176-bc53-cdbd135ca6ce@w8g2000prd
.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> > Keeping up on the news in Iowa is very heart wrenching. ? With New
> >> >> > Orleans, does that
> >> >> > make three major U.S. cities have now experienced devastating
> >> >> > flooding?
> >> >> > Not sure if Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are considered "major" but
> >> >> > it's
> >> >> > obvious the devastation there is.
> >> >>
> >> >> > It's not hard to see as the ice cap and glaciers melt, that this
> >> >> > releases
> >> >> > more water in the "water cycle" which increases the amount of rainfall
> >> >> > and cloud cover. ?The water is no longer locked in a locked state of
> >> >> > ice, so
> >> >> > the water level at the coastlines or in the mainland is higher.
> >> >>
> >> >> ROTFLMAO
> >> >> Sorry but sea levels have not risen significantly since 1985!
> >> >>
> >> >> No Rise In Sea Level At Tuvalu Since 1985
> >> >>
> >> >> June 19, 2008
> >> >>
> >> >> The Age will run on its opinion page even the most discredited of global
> >> >> warming myths that a professional Friends of the Earth alarmist can
> >> >> present:
> >> >>
> >> >> The people of the Carteret Islands, a group of tiny atolls 85 kilometres
> >> >> north-east of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea, are now trying to secure
> >> >> funding to enable them to evacuate to Bougainville as rising sea levels
> >> >> will soon make their island homes uninhabitable.
> >> >>
> >> >> Er, that's not caused by rising seas, dear Age, but falling land.
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh, and then there's that claim again that Tuvalu is drowning - a claim
> >> >> made for so long now that it's odd it's still there. But has The Age
> >> >> ever mentioned that Australian measurements on Tuvalu actually record
> >> >> hardly any sea-level rise at all?
> >> >>
> >> >> These facts are so well known that no serious newspapers should lend
> >> >> premium space to air them yet again. But let's not have the facts get in
> >> >> the way of a good scare in a green cause, right?
> >> >>
> >> >> http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/com...
> >> >>
> >> >> Warmest Regards
> >> >>
> >> >> Bonzo
> >> >>
> >> >> "Climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some
> >> >> intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global-warming
> >> >> policy." Roger A. Pielke, Professor, Environmental Studies, University
> >> >> of Colorado
> >> >
> >> >You must have a tin ear to science. Seal levels have been rising
> >> >steadily since the last ice age. Since 1900 the level has risen at 1
> >> >to 2 mm/yr; since 1993 satellite altimetry from TOPEX/Poseidon
> >> >indicates a rate of rise of 3.1 ? 0.7 mm yr?1 . Church and White
> >> >(2006) found a sea-level rise from January 1870 to December 2004 of
> >> >195 mm, a 20th century rate of sea-level rise of 1.7 ? 0.3 mm per yr
> >> >and a significant acceleration of sea-level rise of 0.013 ? 0.006 mm
> >> >per year. If this acceleration remains constant, then the 1990 to 2100
> >> >rise would range from 280 to 340 mm. Sea-level rise can be a product
> >> >of global warming through two main processes: thermal expansion of sea
> >> >water and widespread melting of land ice. Global warming is predicted
> >> >to cause significant rises in sea level over the course of the twenty-
> >> >first century.
> >> >
> >> >source: Wikipedia
> >>
> >>
> >> Sea level changes of 2 or 3 mm a year are difficult to measure,
> >> without a ground reference, any measurement is meaningless, and the
> >> ground at different places can either be rising or falling.
> >>
> >> The solid Earth rises about a foot when the moon is over head,
> >> so a measurement over a ten year period has to account for where the
> >> moon was during the measurement.
> >
> >Don't forget tectonics. Landmasses ups and downs.
>
>
> I think the north Europe Atlantic coast is still rising
> since the melting of the ice sheet there, but I have no idea of
> what reference can be used to determine the rise or fall of either
> landmass or sea to within 10 centimeters.
Right, and a good basic approach could be found in continental drift
and/or activities of earth's core.
> The portion of the tides caused by the sun is about a third
> of that of the moon (I think), and the distance to the sun can vary
> in avery irregular manner, so any changes that are not substantial
> should be ignored for a few years to see if they are permanent.
My words ^^
We can't do anything against the evolution, least of all playing God
and fight against nature with funds.
Just sit back, relax and watch this all, like Thunderbar postet yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw&feature=r
elated
Uhhh... and think of plastic ... ROFL
fPeter Muehlbauer <s...@f...de> wrote:
>Whata Fool <w...@f...ami> wrote:
>
>> Secular Human <e...@g...com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Jun 24, 2:32?am, "0ZNB0" <0...@d...com> wrote:
>> >> "RS" <p...@g...com> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> news:6532f024-fa6b-4176-bc53-cdbd135ca6ce@w8g2000prd
.googlegroups.com...
>> >>
>> >> > Keeping up on the news in Iowa is very heart wrenching. ? With New
>> >> > Orleans, does that
>> >> > make three major U.S. cities have now experienced devastating
>> >> > flooding?
>> >> > Not sure if Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are considered "major" but
>> >> > it's
>> >> > obvious the devastation there is.
>> >>
>> >> > It's not hard to see as the ice cap and glaciers melt, that this
>> >> > releases
>> >> > more water in the "water cycle" which increases the amount of rainfall
>> >> > and cloud cover. ?The water is no longer locked in a locked state of
>> >> > ice, so
>> >> > the water level at the coastlines or in the mainland is higher.
>> >>
>> >> ROTFLMAO
>> >> Sorry but sea levels have not risen significantly since 1985!
>> >>
>> >> No Rise In Sea Level At Tuvalu Since 1985
>> >>
>> >> June 19, 2008
>> >>
>> >> The Age will run on its opinion page even the most discredited of global
>> >> warming myths that a professional Friends of the Earth alarmist can
>> >> present:
>> >>
>> >> The people of the Carteret Islands, a group of tiny atolls 85 kilometres
>> >> north-east of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea, are now trying to secure
>> >> funding to enable them to evacuate to Bougainville as rising sea levels
>> >> will soon make their island homes uninhabitable.
>> >>
>> >> Er, that's not caused by rising seas, dear Age, but falling land.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, and then there's that claim again that Tuvalu is drowning - a claim
>> >> made for so long now that it's odd it's still there. But has The Age
>> >> ever mentioned that Australian measurements on Tuvalu actually record
>> >> hardly any sea-level rise at all?
>> >>
>> >> These facts are so well known that no serious newspapers should lend
>> >> premium space to air them yet again. But let's not have the facts get in
>> >> the way of a good scare in a green cause, right?
>> >>
>> >> http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.
php/heraldsun/com...
>> >>
>> >> Warmest Regards
>> >>
>> >> Bonzo
>> >>
>> >> "Climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some
>> >> intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global-warming
>> >> policy." Roger A. Pielke, Professor, Environmental Studies, University
>> >> of Colorado
>> >
>> >You must have a tin ear to science. Seal levels have been rising
>> >steadily since the last ice age. Since 1900 the level has risen at 1
>> >to 2 mm/yr; since 1993 satellite altimetry from TOPEX/Poseidon
>> >indicates a rate of rise of 3.1 ? 0.7 mm yr?1 . Church and White
>> >(2006) found a sea-level rise from January 1870 to December 2004 of
>> >195 mm, a 20th century rate of sea-level rise of 1.7 ? 0.3 mm per yr
>> >and a significant acceleration of sea-level rise of 0.013 ? 0.006 mm
>> >per year. If this acceleration remains constant, then the 1990 to 2100
>> >rise would range from 280 to 340 mm. Sea-level rise can be a product
>> >of global warming through two main processes: thermal expansion of sea
>> >water and widespread melting of land ice. Global warming is predicted
>> >to cause significant rises in sea level over the course of the twenty-
>> >first century.
>> >
>> >source: Wikipedia
>>
>>
>> Sea level changes of 2 or 3 mm a year are difficult to measure,
>> without a ground reference, any measurement is meaningless, and the
>> ground at different places can either be rising or falling.
>>
>> The solid Earth rises about a foot when the moon is over head,
>> so a measurement over a ten year period has to account for where the
>> moon was during the measurement.
>
>Don't forget tectonics. Landmasses ups and downs.
I think the north Europe Atlantic coast is still rising
since the melting of the ice sheet there, but I have no idea of
what reference can be used to determine the rise or fall of either
landmass or sea to within 10 centimeters.
The portion of the tides caused by the sun is about a third
of that of the moon (I think), and the distance to the sun can vary
in avery irregular manner, so any changes that are not substantial
should be ignored for a few years to see if they are permanent.
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